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Créé par: Fogz144
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 1 févr. 2023
Publié: 1 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I know the Canucks shouldn't be looking to trade Bear (unless I'm over-valuing him), I just wanted to see it laid out; a guy can dream. No idea how attached the Kings are to Arvidsson, just wanted a right-winger and hear the Kings might be in on Talbot.
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  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Joseph, Mathieu
  3. Meriläinen, Leevi
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
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First is top-ten protected, becoming an unprotected first in 2024.
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    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
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          1 févr. 2023 à 19 h 35
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          BEFORE YOU COMMENT: I don't expect any of this to happen.
          1 févr. 2023 à 19 h 39
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          I realize you said that you don't expect any of this to happen, but at least be realistic with values.

          Talbot is a 35-year old rental goaltender with injury issues. Arvidsson has been one of the Kings most effective forwards since he was acquired before last season.

          I'll bet the Kings would be willing to give up a 3rd round pick for Talbot's services, or a 2nd if Ottawa was willing to retain 50% of his salary.
          1 févr. 2023 à 19 h 44
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          Too much for Demko, and the Canucks aren’t dealing Bear. Do us a favour and just give us your second rounder this season and the better of the two seconds next year. Two 2nds for Demko is more than fair.
          1 févr. 2023 à 20 h 17
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          Quoting: bogdown
          Too much for Demko, and the Canucks aren’t dealing Bear. Do us a favour and just give us your second rounder this season and the better of the two seconds next year. Two 2nds for Demko is more than fair.


          Definitely not. Demko is a top 10 goalie talent in the league on a good contract with yrs left. Two 2nds will not get it done.
          1 févr. 2023 à 20 h 27
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          Ottawa can't afford that next year.
          1 févr. 2023 à 20 h 53
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          Quoting: tkecanuck341
          I realize you said that you don't expect any of this to happen, but at least be realistic with values.

          Talbot is a 35-year old rental goaltender with injury issues. Arvidsson has been one of the Kings most effective forwards since he was acquired before last season.

          I'll bet the Kings would be willing to give up a 3rd round pick for Talbot's services, or a 2nd if Ottawa was willing to retain 50% of his salary.


          Why should I be realistic with values in my own made-up fantasy trade scenario
          1 févr. 2023 à 20 h 56
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          Quoting: Fogz144
          Why should I be realistic with values in my own made-up fantasy trade scenario


          Why do it then? I can post a bunch of Brendan Lemieux for Jake Sanderson trade proposals, but I would expect to draw the ire of the Senators fanbase if I did.
          1 févr. 2023 à 20 h 56
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          Ottawa can't afford that next year.


          How much do you think Bear is worth on a bridge? You're probably right that Ottawa can't afford it, but it's not impossible if Debrincat is ok at like 8.5 and Pinto is fine with a small bridge deal as well (something around 2.5 x 2 years).
          sens65 a aimé ceci.
          1 févr. 2023 à 21 h 0
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          Quoting: tkecanuck341
          Why do it then? I can post a bunch of Brendan Lemieux for Jake Sanderson trade proposals, but I would expect to draw the ire of the Senators fanbase if I did.


          Because this is a cool tool for building a lineup and I wanted to see this lineup laid out. Anyone upset at you for making stupid trades should get over themselves and stop feeling insecure about the potential of losing their favourite players. This is a public forum and people are going to post stuff we don't like. Spamming bad deals would be a dick move but I've never seen anyone do that here.
          1 févr. 2023 à 21 h 49
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          Quoting: Fogz144
          How much do you think Bear is worth on a bridge? You're probably right that Ottawa can't afford it, but it's not impossible if Debrincat is ok at like 8.5 and Pinto is fine with a small bridge deal as well (something around 2.5 x 2 years).


          Bear is not worth more than $2.5 but Ottawa's cap will be extremely tight assuming DeBrincat and Pinto don't get more than $11 million combined and Zaitsev is traded away. There's no room for over $9 million of Demko and Arvidsson.
          1 févr. 2023 à 21 h 56
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          Quoting: Fogz144
          Because this is a cool tool for building a lineup and I wanted to see this lineup laid out. Anyone upset at you for making stupid trades should get over themselves and stop feeling insecure about the potential of losing their favourite players. This is a public forum and people are going to post stuff we don't like. Spamming bad deals would be a dick move but I've never seen anyone do that here.


          Fair enough, carry on.
          1 févr. 2023 à 22 h 29
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          That Vancouver trade is god-awful

          Remove JBD and the 1st and then I'd consider

          Sens don't need Bear. He's a decent bottom-4 D-man but they need a guy who can play with Chabot and make him become better (like Methot did for Karlsson). I don't think Bear can be a top pairing D-man


          So if you remove Bear, then Joseph + Merilainen + 2nd might even be mistake

          Leevi Meriläinen is 20 and is currently BEASTING in the Liiga

          Joseph is a decent 3rd liner and an elite PKer on a decent contract, one of the fastest skaters in the league
           
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