Interesting 5 way trade

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Créé par: bliker

Équipe: 2022-23 Kings de Los Angeles

Date de création initiale: 31 janv. 2023

Publié: 31 janv. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Net effects for each team (read the math before commenting plz):

VAN: Replaces 1A G with 1B G, Replaces 2W with 1C, gains 2nd rd pick
STL: Replaces 1C with 2C and 2W, gains 1M cap space
SJS: Replaces expiring 1W with expiring 2W, gains 1st + 2nd rd picks
NJD: Replaces 2C and 2W with 1W, loses 2nd rd pick
LAK: Replaces 1B G with 1A G, loses 1st + 2nd rd picks

Transactions

LAK

Boeser, Brock (2 650 000 $ retained)
Demko, Thatcher

VAN

LAK

O'Reilly, Ryan

STL

LAK

Meier, Timo

SJS

LAK

Haula, Erik
Tatar, Tomas
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

NJD

LAK

STL

LAK

NJD

Meier, Timo
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)

LAK

VAN

O'Reilly, Ryan
Petersen, Cal
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)

LAK

SJS

Tatar, Tomas
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

Rachats de contrats

Dion Phaneuf: 1 062 500 $

Frais de résiliation

Mike Richards: 900 000 $

Enfoui

Austin Wagner: 8 333 $ (1 133 333 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	82 500 000 $	79 204 167 $	637 500 $	4 162 500 $	3 295 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kempe, Adrian 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Kopitar, Anze 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Byfield, Quinton 894 167 $894 167 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AG, C RFA - 2
Iafallo, Alex 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Danault, Phillip 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 5	Arvidsson, Viktor 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Fiala, Kevin 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 7	Lizotte, Blake 1 675 000 $1 675 000 $ C RFA - 2	Vilardi, Gabriel 825 000 $825 000 $ AD, C RFA - 1
Lemieux, Brendan 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kupari, Rasmus 863 333 $863 333 $ (350 000 $$350K) C, AG, AD RFA - 1	Anderson-Dolan, Jaret 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG, AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Anderson, Michael 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Doughty, Drew 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 4
Durzi, Sean 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Roy, Matt 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Quick, Jonathan 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ G UFA - 1
Björnfot, Tobias 894 167 $894 167 $ (262 500 $$262K) DG RFA - 1	Walker, Sean 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Edler, Alexander 750 000 $750 000 $ (750 000 $$750K) DG NMC UFA - 1	Moore, Trevor 1 875 000 $1 875 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
	Grundström, Carl 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2
	Kaliyev, Arthur 894 167 $894 167 $ (150 000 $$150K) AD, AG RFA - 2

31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 34

Ross_Johnston

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So if I'm following correctly, LA moves Petersen's contract, a first and a second and gets Demko? Sounds pretty good

31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 34

AC14

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Not sure why the Blues would want to add Salary and players at this time.

Would be much better off just selling ROR for futures.

Boeser's contract complicates things down the road when Buchnevich will need a raise.

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31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 35

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So SJ gives up Timo and gets a 32 year old UFA who is putting up 3rd line numbers? Come on, this is silly.

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31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 35

TheAlien

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This is terrible

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31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 38

glarson17

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San Jose moves Timo for a 1st, 2nd and Tatar? Add Luke Hughes or Byfield and sure

31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 40

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The Kings aren't giving up their 1st round pick this year in exchange for a goaltender who is injured and was playing poorly this season before he went down. If their pick is contingent on some Demko performance metric, then maybe the Kings would do it, but in that case it would likely need to be the 2024 1st to give Demko time to fulfill the condition.

31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 45

Tennisman142

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Blues decline. If we are trading ROR it will be for picks and prospects. Not another roster player

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31 janv. 2023 à 16 h 53

bliker

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Quoting: stephane_robidas

So if I'm following correctly, LA moves Petersen's contract, a first and a second and gets Demko? Sounds pretty good

Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.

Quoting: AC14

Quoting: Tennisman142

Blues decline. If we are trading ROR it will be for picks and prospects. Not another roster player

This is valid. I thought the Blues want a bit more depth (also Boeser is part retained), but if not completely understandable.

Quoting: sleeparc

So SJ gives up Timo and gets a 32 year old UFA who is putting up 3rd line numbers? Come on, this is silly.

Quoting: glarson17

San Jose moves Timo for a 1st, 2nd and Tatar? Add Luke Hughes or Byfield and sure

Meier is on an expiring contract and so far hasn't shown signs of resigning- that significantly drops his value. Tatar can replace him for this season, which improves their lottery odds and brings a veteran in. Historically, the price for a high-skill winger rental (Meier) has been a mid-tier roster replacement, a first, and a second. This is in line with that.

31 janv. 2023 à 17 h 4

tkecanuck341

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Quoting: bliker

Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.

I'm curious to know which team has given up a 1st round pick and more for a goaltender in the salary cap era and ended up happy with the trade. I can think of exactly one example ever and it involved a decent amount of salary retention.

31 janv. 2023 à 17 h 12

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glarson17

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Quoting: bliker

Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.

This is valid. I thought the Blues want a bit more depth (also Boeser is part retained), but if not completely understandable.

Meier is on an expiring contract and so far hasn't shown signs of resigning- that significantly drops his value. Tatar can replace him for this season, which improves their lottery odds and brings a veteran in. Historically, the price for a high-skill winger rental (Meier) has been a mid-tier roster replacement, a first, and a second. This is in line with that.

I think your a little confused, Meier is rfa so he’s a shark whether he wants to be or not. That doesn’t change his value at all. Grier has also allowed teams to talk extension so that only increases his value.

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31 janv. 2023 à 17 h 31

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YesThisIsFlo

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So the Canucks are giving up

Thatcher Demko
Brock Boeser, and retaining 2.65 for 3 seasons

for

A 2nd round pick
An atrocious goaltender on 3x$5
An expiring 31 year old C

What benefit is there to the Canucks to do this? This is awful...

And for some reason you're giving NJ a 1st back? So they're essentially trading Haula, Tatar, and a 2nd for Meier lmao?

Canucks are beyond uninterested.

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31 janv. 2023 à 22 h 24

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Quoting: bliker

Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.

Timo is an RFA. That is not the same as an expiring contract. His signing rights are still reserved. Regardless that doesn't effect his value very much. You're one of the few who doesn't understand this. Get on board.

This is valid. I thought the Blues want a bit more depth (also Boeser is part retained), but if not completely understandable.

Meier is on an expiring contract and so far hasn't shown signs of resigning- that significantly drops his value. Tatar can replace him for this season, which improves their lottery odds and brings a veteran in. Historically, the price for a high-skill winger rental (Meier) has been a mid-tier roster replacement, a first, and a second. This is in line with that.

1 févr. 2023 à 6 h 4

#13

Tintin

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Including Tatar in a Meier deal kind defeats the purpose in the Devils acquiring Meier.
Tatar has been stupid good this year and I don't see why the Sharks would be interested in acquiring a 32 year old pending UFA.
Rather just replace Tatar with a prospect like Mukhammadulin or Casey.

1 févr. 2023 à 11 h 59

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bliker

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Quoting: glarson17

Yes that would explain the confusion lol

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