That Blues deal is worse for us than the Horvat deal. The average age of this roster is like 33 lmao. Lets trade away our best u23 forward for an aging 31 year old pending UFA

The more I’ve seen of Wahlstrom, the more I think he hasn’t been a good fit for our system, even after Trotz left. If we can resign Tank and Bo, that bus us at least two years of contention before we have to consider rebuilding. Besides, Wahlstrom won’t be back from injury this year anyways.

The Blues aren't taking back Bailey for that, if at all.

Wahlstrom is a top 5 player on the team this season. I think these tales are from years of being brainwashed that young players aren’t reliable and can’t be trusted in key situations

That being said, I’m fine with the trade because the isles need to be humbled. Wahlstrom is already better than Tarasenko and will thrive on the blues.


You might not realize it now, but this era starting right now and through the decade will be worse than the Milbury years.

I’ve never seen anything like this isles era where fans are brainwashed into thinking that any old player is better than any young player. If we had Cole Caufield , isles fans would give him away for Corey Perry.

Look, Wahlstrom won't be the 30-40 goal scorer we once hoped. But he's going to be very cheap on the next contract and he was really developing his 2-way game more this year. We'd be selling extremely low on him rn. Let's just ride him out, hes a capable NHLer. If they just get one more top 6 wing, Wahlstrom on the 3rd line with JGP, and now you have a really solid forward core, assuming a Horvat extension

Calgary is not tight on cap space, they can bring in Kane at 50% without moving cap out

Wahlstrom will be a 25-30 G 55-60 pt winger with a good two way impact. The “he doesn’t fit this system” equates to “he’s not scoring 30 goals in 12 min of ice time so let’s trade him for a washed up winger”

He's barely gotten any PP time as well. He actually fits what they're system is trying to go towards

If he’s supposed to be scoring at a 25-30 point pace, he’d have scored more than 7 goals in the first half of the season.

Up until the Horvat trade, I would have been fine keeping Wahlstrom and let him develop however he’ll develop, probably into a middle six sniper with a bit better defensive play than you’d expect. But since we traded away our best prospect and our fourth or fifth straight first rounder, it’s in for a penny in for a pound. The Horvat trade forces us to go for it, I never said I liked that fact.

I made a post about a week ago talking about how we should sell off a few of our older guys, retool for 2-3 years and build around the younger half of our core. But the Horvat trade changes all of that.

So which is it? Is it too much or too little?

So the solution is to trade a young player for an older player who is worse - just because he’s old? Is the goal to construct the oldest roster in the NHL?

With rumors of Wahlstrom potentially being out for the season I would be hesitant to do this deal from a blues perspective.

Take it up with Lou. I wanted to spend the next three years reloading, but I’m not GM. The Horvat trade wasn’t my idea, I just think adding is the best thing we can do in this situation.

How many times do I have to explain my position on this to you? It’s not like I haven’t been clear.

If the Blues aren’t looking to compete this year, I don’t think that’d make much of a difference. He’ll be healthy by next year, and they should be able to resign him for cheap.

Still I don't think they would make the centerpiece of the trade an injured player. Who know how they will play after the injury or if they will even be healthy after the injury. Just a very unnecessary risk for the blues to make. I think there would be better deals out there where the centerpiece of the trade is not injured at all.

It's not an issue of too much or too little. It's an issue of one piece they ain't taking, and the value being spread out among three pieces. Compact the value into fewer pieces, with none of them called Bailey.

I’m debating that adding is the worst thing they can do in this situation because there is nothing they can add to make them a playoff team

Too late to make that argument. We’ve already sold off half of our farm, there’s no undoing the trade.

Also, “there’s nothing they can add to make them a playoff team”? What??? The Isles are two points behind PIT and three points behind WSH. How is this team too far gone?

Look, I don’t know if you just don’t like the Isles or are in too deep on a ridiculous opinion to back down, but I think it’s clear that you’re going to doompost on the Isles one way or another.

Pittsburgh and Buffalo both ahead of the isles with 3 games in hand. Both are much better teams, even with horvat. When the isles miss the playoffs, I’ll come back to this thread. It isn’t much of a hot take.

How is it ridiculous? The isles have proven that they are nothing more than a .500 team over the past 2 seasons. Last season it was blamed on Covid, what’s this years excuse?

Just so we’re clear , i have said that i won’t be content until the isles rebuild. They are a terrible team with one of the worst rosters in the league. If I tried to persuade you into believing in the Arizona coyotes becoming contenders, would you believe me? No. So why would I value an opinion with rose colored glasses. There is no realistic outline for the isles to make the playoffs anytime soon

Comparing this team’s playoff chances to Arizona or Chicago is just ridiculous. I’m done discussing this, you are, in your own words “ignoring reality” to put the Isles on the level of those two teams.

You know I’m not wrong. Isles have the 2nd toughest schedule remaining as well. If you can prove to me they have a good chance, I’ll admit I’m wrong. But there’s nothing out there that supports the isles making the playoffs.

flames have 7.5 mil in cap space for the deadline apparently lmao, we reject