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Créé par: TheRealisticGuy
Équipe: 2022-23 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 30 janv. 2023
Publié: 30 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Okhotiuk, Nikita
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
2023 TDL
NJD
  1. Meier, Timo
Détails additionnels:
2023 TDL
2.
SJS
  1. Nikishin, Alexander [Liste de réserve]
  2. Rees, Jamieson
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
2023 TDL
CAR
    Meier, Timo
    3.
    SJS
    1. Bailey, Josh
    2. Bolduc, Samuel
    3. Räty, Aatu
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
    5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
    Détails additionnels:
    2023 TDL
    NYI
    1. Suess, C.J.
    Détails additionnels:
    Meier, Timo
    4.
    SJS
    1. Mittelstadt, Casey
    2. Östlund, Noah
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
    Détails additionnels:
    2023 TDL
    BUF
      Meier, Timo
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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      2023
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      Logo de CAR
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de BUF
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de PHI
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de SJS
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      Logo de CBJ
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      Logo de VAN
      2024
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de VGK
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de COL
      Logo de SJS
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      2025
      Logo de SJS
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2382 500 000 $78 399 168 $0 $850 000 $4 100 832 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Islanders de New York
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AD, AG, C
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AG, C
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 025 000 $1 025 000 $
      C, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Devils du New Jersey
      894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      AD, AG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      750 000 $750 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
      C, AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      762 500 $762 500 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      762 500 $762 500 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 4
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      950 000 $950 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      AD, C
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      750 000 $750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      850 000 $850 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      835 000 $835 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 2

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      30 janv. 2023 à 15 h 35
      #76
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      Quoting: worldwidesensei
      When Kane was traded 20G 20A
      Meier currently 28G 20A

      Is 8 goals worth 2 more 1sts ?

      Not to me.


      I started talking to you saying that Meier is worth at least 2 1sts, not 3 (dropping Mittelstadt, assuming he's worth a 1st).
      30 janv. 2023 à 15 h 36
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      Quoting: worldwidesensei
      Agree to disagree.

      Meier may be slightly better. Not 2 1st round picks better,

      Then factor in cap space around the league?


      Tell me where I said Meier was worth 2 1st round picks better than what Kane got, I do not understand your standpoint.
      30 janv. 2023 à 15 h 43
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      Quoting: dannibalcorpse
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      22 man roster built with Meier QO'd at $10M, Noah Gregor retained at $1M, and guys they currently have under contract called up to fill in the roster holes. $2M leftover to find a suitable 1B goalie to tandem with Kahkonen. They're not in the *best* cap situation but this isn't like the Fiala situation, where Minnesota would have to dump contracts to be able to afford re-signing him. They have the room to keep Meier if no one meets their price.


      Okay, but that is not good. That is a team in trouble.
      30 janv. 2023 à 15 h 44
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      Modifié 30 janv. 2023 à 15 h 51
      Quoting: poeticentropy
      Tell me where I said Meier was worth 2 1st round picks better than what Kane got, I do not understand your standpoint.


      You've been reasonable. Sorry responding to the offer here more than what you said. My bad.

      Still, BUF has no reason to pay more for Meier than what SJ paid for Kane. We just don't need to.

      We're 1st in the league in GF.
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      30 janv. 2023 à 15 h 52
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      Quoting: worldwidesensei
      Okay, but that is not good. That is a team in trouble.


      That's not the point. They were bad last year, they're bad this year, and they will be bad next year with or without Meier - they're in a rebuild, of course they're gonna be bad.

      The point I was trying to make was you said that they *had* to move Meier because their cap situation was desperate - which it clearly isn't. They can fit his QO on next year's team and shop him as a true rental at the deadline if they don't get their price met this year. Acting like they should take a lesser return than what they're aiming for because they can't fit his cap hit is not reading the situation correctly - they can easily do it, and if you ("you" being any GM interested in him) aren't interested in paying their price, then they're gonna hold on to him.
      30 janv. 2023 à 15 h 56
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      Quoting: dannibalcorpse
      That's not the point. They were bad last year, they're bad this year, and they will be bad next year with or without Meier - they're in a rebuild, of course they're gonna be bad.

      The point I was trying to make was you said that they *had* to move Meier because their cap situation was desperate - which it clearly isn't. They can fit his QO on next year's team and shop him as a true rental at the deadline if they don't get their price met this year. Acting like they should take a lesser return than what they're aiming for because they can't fit his cap hit is not reading the situation correctly - they can easily do it, and if you ("you" being any GM interested in him) aren't interested in paying their price, then they're gonna hold on to him.


      fair enough. you can fit him, but it won't be easy.

      And finding a trading partner with his contract won't be easy.

      And because that won't be easy, I doubt you will be getting an exorbitant amount back for him. Most teams can't fit him without making sacrifices back.

      I prefaced your return for Burns. And VGK's for Patches.

      This is the league.

      Meier should get a decent amount back, but Grier is a rookie GM in a very tough market.
      30 janv. 2023 à 16 h 59
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      Quoting: poeticentropy
      I started talking to you saying that Meier is worth at least 2 1sts, not 3 (dropping Mittelstadt, assuming he's worth a 1st).


      Could you tell me which players got 2 1sts?

      I'm struggling to come up with players that got that back.

      Eichel <> Tuch, Krebs, 1st
      ROR <> Tage, 1st
      30 janv. 2023 à 17 h 9
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      Quoting: worldwidesensei
      Could you tell me which players got 2 1sts?

      I'm struggling to come up with players that got that back.

      Eichel <> Tuch, Krebs, 1st
      ROR <> Tage, 1st


      Duchene? 2 1sts from CBJ.

      And?
      30 janv. 2023 à 17 h 16
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      Quoting: worldwidesensei
      Could you tell me which players got 2 1sts?

      I'm struggling to come up with players that got that back.

      Eichel <> Tuch, Krebs, 1st
      ROR <> Tage, 1st


      Basically no one gets 2 1sts back, let alone 3. Especially Ws. Especially players without contracts,

      Can't wait for someone to provide me with an example tho of this happening.
      30 janv. 2023 à 18 h 2
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      Quoting: slapshot723
      I highly doubt the Isles are moving Raty.


      Quoting: Nightowl26
      Isles are passing. Not moving Raty or our 2023 1st. We are not making playoffs, we will be sellers at the deadline.


      Quoting: Warrior24
      The Isles are not moving Raty or any prospects, young players or picks. They are sellers.


      Both 😬
      30 janv. 2023 à 19 h 53
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      Quoting: worldwidesensei
      Could you tell me which players got 2 1sts?

      I'm struggling to come up with players that got that back.

      Eichel <> Tuch, Krebs, 1st
      ROR <> Tage, 1st


      it's more of a top prospect+1st ask. Later pick prospects, like 2nd rounders, that show they should have been picked earlier count, as long as they go into the top prospect category.
      30 janv. 2023 à 19 h 58
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      Quoting: poeticentropy
      it's more of a top prospect+1st ask. Later pick prospects, like 2nd rounders, that show they should have been picked earlier count, as long as they go into the top prospect category.


      Very reasonable. BUF fans are willing to throw out 3 1sts + 2nd like candy.
      30 janv. 2023 à 20 h 8
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      Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
      Both 😬


      What can I say, Lou's a moron
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      31 janv. 2023 à 9 h 1
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      Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
      Both 😬


      I was waiting for this lol.
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      31 janv. 2023 à 9 h 9
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      Quoting: Nightowl26
      Isles are passing. Not moving Raty or our 2023 1st. We are not making playoffs, we will be sellers at the deadline.


      This has aged very poorly very quickly.
      31 janv. 2023 à 9 h 29
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      Quoting: slapshot723
      I highly doubt the Isles are moving Raty.


      Quoting: Nightowl26
      Isles are passing. Not moving Raty or our 2023 1st. We are not making playoffs, we will be sellers at the deadline.


      Quoting: Warrior24
      The Isles are not moving Raty or any prospects, young players or picks. They are sellers.


      Y'all might want to make your crystal balls a little shinier.

      'Cause these three takes aged real quick.
      31 janv. 2023 à 10 h 38
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      Quoting: sensonfire
      Y'all might want to make your crystal balls a little shinier.

      'Cause these three takes aged real quick.


      Cool, take your little victory lap because Lou is a horrendous GM.
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      31 janv. 2023 à 10 h 49
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      Quoting: Warrior24
      Cool, take your little victory lap because Lou is a horrendous GM.


      I would say that Lou should have retired gracefully with his legacy intact after leaving the Devils in 2015.

      Given that he was made NHL GM of the Year twice with the Islanders, it seems that Lou is now "way in over his head" at this point.
       
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