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Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 29 janv. 2023
Publié: 29 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 250 000 $
87 750 000 $
42 100 000 $
21 250 000 $
2875 000 $
1775 000 $
2900 000 $
2875 000 $
88 125 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
16 375 000 $
1800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Benson, Zach
3925 000 $
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
2023 Trade Deadline
2.
MTL
  1. Olausson, Oskar
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (COL)
COL
  1. Monahan, Sean (3 153 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
2023 Trade Deadline
3.
MTL
  1. Meier, Timo [Droits de RFA]
SJS
  1. Mesar, Filip
  2. Pitlick, Rem
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2583 500 000 $80 663 833 $1 170 000 $4 275 000 $2 836 167 $

Formation

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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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897 500 $897 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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885 000 $885 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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29 janv. 2023 à 19 h 40
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Absolutely not by the avs
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29 janv. 2023 à 19 h 42
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Absolutely not by the avs


Of course they will.
29 janv. 2023 à 19 h 50
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Of course they will.


Not for a player who has a long injury history and has yet to return from another injury missing half the season so far
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29 janv. 2023 à 19 h 56
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Quoting: coga16
Not for a player who has a long injury history and has yet to return from another injury missing half the season so far


Sure he will. It’s a B prospect and a 2nd. That’s not even an incredibly high price to pay. That 2nd might as well be a 3rd, and Olausson hasn’t progressed that well since being drafted: The only reason Monahan won’t fetch a 1st is because of the injury, but he’ll still net a nice return.

Colorado doesn’t care about those pieces whatsoever, they care about these playoffs. Prices are high at the deadline especially this deadline which will see a ton of teams going after the same players with fewer sellers than most years.
29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 4
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Sure he will. It’s a B prospect and a 2nd. That’s not even an incredibly high price to pay. That 2nd might as well be a 3rd, and Olausson hasn’t progressed that well since being drafted: The only reason Monahan won’t fetch a 1st is because of the injury, but he’ll still net a nice return.

Colorado doesn’t care about those pieces whatsoever, they care about these playoffs. Prices are wildly high at the deadline especially this deadline which will see a ton of teams going after the same players with fewer sellers than most years.


He’s not going to fetch a1st he’s he’s not worth that, he went from a guy looking likes he’s washed in the league as a 4th liner in Calgary to maybe a guy who could be a 3c on a contending team if healthy, which he never is or has been his whole career. This injury didn’t stop him getting a 1st; he never was from the get to. He makes too much money, is a poor skater, has been poor defensively his whole career and has been poor to mediocre in the playoffs routinely,

This is Oskars first year in North America. What are you going. Saying that the avs don’t care about their future shows you don’t really pay attention to how to build their team or make trades, they do not invest their better prospect in rentals, full stop

There is an abundance of mediocre cs available like monahan, he’s not a premium asset or target, there won’t be high returns for guys like him bc teams can easily go to the next team and get a version of him for half the cost
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 8
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Oilers say no. Apparently they’ve been warned not to go near JE seeing his back injury is to sever and that he would actually make the Oilers worse lol
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 9
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He’s not going to fetch a1st he’s he’s not worth that, he went from a guy looking likes he’s washed in the league as a 4th liner in Calgary to maybe a guy who could be a 3c on a contending team if healthy, which he never is or has been his whole career. This injury didn’t stop him getting a 1st; he never was from the get to. He makes too much money, is a poor skater, has been poor defensively his whole career and has been in the playoffs routinely,

This is Oskars first year in North America. What are you going. Saying that the avs don’t care about their future shows you don’t really pay attention to how to build their team or make trades, they do not invest their better prospect in rentals, full stop

There is an abundance of mediocre cs available like monahan, he’s not a premium asset or target, there won’t be high returns for guys like him bc teams can easily go to the next team and get a version of him for half the cost


It’s pretty obvious they don’t care about their prospects because they’ve basically traded every single valuable one away in the last 3 years.

As for Monahan, his health is less of a concern when you only need him for a couple of months. They wouldn’t make this deal until he is cleared by doctors. You can state your opinion, that is fine, but the insiders have already spoken on this, and you’re wrong. 3rd line centres go for 1st at the deadline. Hell a middle 6 winger went for two 1sts last deadline.. a 2nd pairing dman netted Montreal a 1st, B prospect, and a 5th ffs. You should put your opinion aside and just look at the facts.
29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: JmoneyTalk
Oilers say no. Apparently they’ve been warned not to go near JE seeing his back injury is to sever and that he would actually make the Oilers worse lol


We’ll see what the update is on his injury status.
29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 11
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It’s pretty obvious they don’t care about their prospects because they’ve basically traded every single valuable one away in the last 3 years.

As for Monahan, his health is less of a concern when you only need him for a couple of months. They wouldn’t make this deal until he is cleared by doctors. You can state your opinion, that is fine, but the insiders have already spoken on this, and you’re wrong. 3rd line centres go for 1st at the deadline. Hell a middle 6 winger went for two 1sts last deadline.. a 2nd pairing dman netted Montreal a 1st, B prospect, and a 5th ffs. You should put your opinion aside and just look at the facts.


They have retained every player they traded a prospect for, what are you talking about

At this point it’s either you are trolling or gas lighting

And the insiders didn’t say anything, they said they are a team to monitor and they could see the avs having some interest if the cost was reasonable

This is not reasonable, you can’t Cherry pick your insider notes, use everything Lebrun mentioned

These are the facts; you just want to make up your one narrative about the avs and how they do business to justify your roster, it’s not working my man
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 14
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We’ll see what the update is on his injury status.


I hope for MTL and JE sake he can recover but I hope EDM listens to the guy with the inside information and don’t touch him.
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 16
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I hope for MTL and JE sake he can recover but I hope EDM listens to the guy with the inside information and don’t touch him.


The doctors will be honest. Before every trade the receiving team asks for the medical report. If it is a concern then I’m sure he won’t be moved.
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 19
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Oh so they’ve retained every player they’ve traded prospects for, so what you’re saying is they won’t trade for a rental? A long term asset that they can’t even pay is their only option?

Btw don’t use the word gaslighting in a hockey debate. You’re not a 12 year old girl and this isn’t Twitter.


they dont invest heavy futures into pure rentals, that is exactly what I am saying. And that is what the Insiders are saying, the whole thing Lebrun brought up is the avs cant pay the heavy costs to the Horvats etc bc they cant afford them sot hey would move onto more reasonably cost ones.

So heavy future investment into a rental, a lesser one tat that, in Monahan goes against what the insiders are saying. You want to live by the insiders facts, maybe take it all into account
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 21
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As for Monahan, his health is less of a concern when you only need him for a couple of months.


He can't even stay healthy for a couple of months... This is as likely as the Avs trading the '23 1st for Suzuki at 50%.
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 22
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they dont invest heavy futures into pure rentals, that is exactly what I am saying. And that is what the Insiders are saying, the whole thing Lebrun brought up is the avs cant pay the heavy costs to the Horvats etc bc they cant afford them sot hey would move onto more reasonably cost ones.

So heavy future investment into a rental, a lesser one tat that, in Monahan goes against what the insiders are saying. You want to live by the insiders facts, maybe take it all into account


What they’ve done in the past is irrelevant. Can they pay for an upgrade at centre long term? No they can’t or else they would’ve paid Kadri. Things change, they’re likely to be in on rentals this year.
29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 24
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He can't even stay healthy for a couple of months... This is as likely as the Avs trading the '23 1st for Suzuki at 50%.


Are you suggesting that he isn’t worth what I’ve suggested, or that Colorado isn’t interested in trading for him?
29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 25
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What they’ve done in the past is irrelevant. Can they pay for an upgrade at centre long term? No they can’t or else they would’ve paid Kadri. Things change, they’re likely to be in on rentals this year.


No it's not, the avs have operated in the same way in the Joe Sakic era which has been over a decade. What they do in the past is how they conduct their business now, they didnt change philosophies. Which for the record is work with their prospects. They are in constant communication with them in the AHL to work on what they need them to do to help the avs. They are highly valued. They dont call them up for a cup of coffee, they want them to stick and help them defend the cup.

What upgrade at centre long term are you talking about, bc thats not Monahan. You think they will invest heavy assets into him bc of that, that is just some crazy pill type of takes there. You are not following at all. They will be looking at moderate to lower cost rentals, they arent paying premiums on pure rentals. If they pay rentals its for actual long term players. Monahan is not that.
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 29
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No it's not, the avs have operated in the same way in the Joe Sakic era which has been over a decade. What they do in the past is how they conduct their business now, they didnt change philosophies.

What upgrade at centre long term are you talking about, bc thats not Monahan. You think they will invest heavy assets into him bc of that, that is just some crazy pill type of takes there. You are not following at all. They will be looking at moderate to lower cost rentals, they arent paying premiums on pure rentals. If they pay rentals its for actual long term players. Monahan is not that.


I didn’t call Monahan a long term upgrade at centre.. I said they can’t afford a long term upgrade at centre, so they’re more likely to be in on a rental.

If your argument is that Monahan won’t go for this much, while I disagree, at least it is a respectable opinion. But if you’re saying that Colorado won’t be interested in Monahan at all because they don’t trade for rentals that is not a take I will agree with because Lebrun has already stated that they are indeed interested in him. So unless you are more credible, or have an inside scoop then I have to take his word over yours. Sorry.
29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 31
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I didn’t call Monahan a long term upgrade at centre.. I said they can’t afford a long term upgrade at centre, so they’re more likely to be in on a rental.

If your argument is that Monahan won’t go for this much, while I disagree, at least it is a respectable opinion. But if you’re saying that Colorado won’t be interested in Monahan at all because they don’t trade for rentals that is not a take I will agree with because Lebrun has already stated that they are indeed interested in him. So unless you are more credible, or have an inside scoop then I have to take his word over yours. Sorry.


I didnt say they wouldn't be interested, they will check in on all the available Cs, but you are making it sound like bc of "insiders" that hes the avs target. These same insiders said the same thing about MAF and the Avs about their goaltending, always having inserted in him, but nothing happened, nothing was going on thats why.

Interest is just that, it's a buzz word for speculation. Avs will look at Depth fwds who can play C, that doesnt mean anything. Interested doesnt mean they targeted him for a trade, or even want to talk trade for him.

that is the biggest issue with hockey rumour mongering, fans see X Player to Y Team "interest" and they act like they want to make a trade or will make a trade. It's a buzz word, nothing more right now. And he didnt say that, he said they are a team to monitor when it comes to Monahan. That is saying absolute nothing of substance at all linking the 2 teams, pure speculation throw in
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29 janv. 2023 à 20 h 34
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Are you suggesting that he isn’t worth what I’ve suggested, or that Colorado isn’t interested in trading for him?


Yes
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29 janv. 2023 à 23 h 13
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I didnt say they wouldn't be interested, they will check in on all the available Cs, but you are making it sound like bc of "insiders" that hes the avs target. These same insiders said the same thing about MAF and the Avs about their goaltending, always having inserted in him, but nothing happened, nothing was going on thats why.

Interest is just that, it's a buzz word for speculation. Avs will look at Depth fwds who can play C, that doesnt mean anything. Interested doesnt mean they targeted him for a trade, or even want to talk trade for him.

that is the biggest issue with hockey rumour mongering, fans see X Player to Y Team "interest" and they act like they want to make a trade or will make a trade. It's a buzz word, nothing more right now. And he didnt say that, he said they are a team to monitor when it comes to Monahan. That is saying absolute nothing of substance at all linking the 2 teams, pure speculation throw in


Friedman, Lebrun and Johnston are not fake insiders lol. These guys are legit. They’re not some random dude from the local media. They’re legit insiders. If they say there is interest then there is interest. Period.

Just because there was buzz about Fleury going to the Avs and it didn’t happen doesn’t mean that whatever these specific insiders say is not true. First of all Avs could’ve had interest in Fleury. There are multiple teams eyeing the same players. Just because one of the teams linked to said player doesn’t acquire him doesn’t mean they didn’t have interest.

Colorado is interested in Monahan, and if they strike out on another target or two, then their interest will rise.

You’re suggesting they wouldn’t trade for Monahan because of his injury history, I’m saying they in fact do have interest and so will multiple teams, so the price to get him will be relatively high. Maybe not a first round pick-high, but he will net a good return. A late 2nd and a B prospect seems likely.
29 janv. 2023 à 23 h 16
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Unfortunately you’re wrong about the Avs having interest in Monahan. That’s already been confirmed by Lebrun. That’s fact. If you want to talk about what he’s worth, that’s purely an opinion and we can have that discussion.
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Friedman, Lebrun and Johnston are not fake insiders lol. These guys are legit. They’re not some random dude from the local media. They’re legit insiders. If they say there is interest then there is interest. Period.

Just because there was buzz about Fleury going to the Avs and it didn’t happen doesn’t mean that whatever these specific insiders say is not true. First of all Avs could’ve had interest in Fleury. There are multiple teams eyeing the same players. Just because one of the teams linked to said player doesn’t acquire him doesn’t mean they didn’t have interest.

Colorado is interested in Monahan, and if they strike out on another target or two, then their interest will rise.

You’re suggesting they wouldn’t trade for Monahan because of his injury history, I’m saying they in fact do have interest and so will multiple teams, so the price to get him will be relatively high. Maybe not a first round pick-high, but he will net a good return. A late 2nd and a B prospect seems likely.


Where did I say there were fake insiders, I’m not making any claims of local media saying anything. You are making up your own narrative again

Lebrun has said they are a team to monitor, he never said interest last week. Comprehend what is being said, you are drawing your own conclusions. Lebrun also speculated the avs could be interested if the price was reasonable. Again key words, could and reasonable. Speculation pieces. The one time he did mention interested he’s speculating, nothing concrete yet. It’s he beliefs he’s mentioning. Take the time to listen to words he’s saying. Once you do. 99% of the time insiders are really passing along their beliefs and speculated info they have stitched together.

You are ready way too much into pure speculation right now.
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29 janv. 2023 à 23 h 22
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Friedman, Lebrun and Johnston are not fake insiders lol. These guys are legit. They’re not some random dude from the local media. They’re legit insiders. If they say there is interest then there is interest. Period.

Just because there was buzz about Fleury going to the Avs and it didn’t happen doesn’t mean that whatever these specific insiders say is not true. First of all Avs could’ve had interest in Fleury. There are multiple teams eyeing the same players. Just because one of the teams linked to said player doesn’t acquire him doesn’t mean they didn’t have interest.

Colorado is interested in Monahan, and if they strike out on another target or two, then their interest will rise.

You’re suggesting they wouldn’t trade for Monahan because of his injury history, I’m saying they in fact do have interest and so will multiple teams, so the price to get him will be relatively high. Maybe not a first round pick-high, but he will net a good return. A late 2nd and a B prospect seems likely.


It's been almost two months since Monahan played in an NHL game and the Athletic's beat reporter said that he missed the last 3 days of practice this week. When you consider the reason that Calgary was so eager to replace him that they gave up a 1st was because of his declining play due to injuries on top of that, well, I don't know how much redder you can make that red flag. Even if he has a miracle comeback on Tuesday, he has -at most- 11 games to rebuild his value before the deadline. I think it's going to be incredibly hard for any team to put any sort of high value on him, when you add in that he's going to have a $3M+ cap hit even after full retention.
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29 janv. 2023 à 23 h 29
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Unfortunately you’re wrong about the Avs having interest in Monahan. That’s already been confirmed by Lebrun. That’s fact. If you want to talk about what he’s worth, that’s purely an opinion and we can have that discussion.


He never confirmed anything, you need to do a better job at comprehending the content insiders are posting bc nothing even close to confirmation is out there

LeBrun: I think the Colorado Avalanche is the team to monitor when it comes to Sean Monahan. Key words I think. It’s his opinion not concrete facts.
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It's been almost two months since Monahan played in an NHL game and the Athletic's beat reporter said that he missed the last 3 days of practice this week. When you consider the reason that Calgary was so eager to replace him that they gave up a 1st was because of his declining play due to injuries on top of that, well, I don't know how much redder you can make that red flag. Even if he has a miracle comeback on Tuesday, he has -at most- 11 games to rebuild his value before the deadline. I think it's going to be incredibly hard for any team to put any sort of high value on him, when you add in that he's going to have a $3M+ cap hit even after full retention.


His value comes from what he is when he is on the ice. When he was playing he was being talked about by every credible insider as one of the best rentals on the market, someone who would net a 1st+. Now that the injury is involved it clearly reduces his value. But he won’t be traded at all unless he makes a full recovery before the trade deadline. If he is cleared by the medical staff the receiving team will be privy to al of that info. A 2nd (basically a 3rd) and a B prospect who’s struggled immensely in the ahl this year is not a high price to pay. Could it be another prospect like Jean-Luc Foudy? Sure. But this price is general is not much to pay. They just gave up their former 16th overall pick for a 4th liner in Nieto and a useless prospect in Merkley,.
 
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