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NASCAR VAN Three way does it work

Créé par: ecupirate07
Équipe: 2022-23 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 27 janv. 2023
Publié: 27 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
To Van:
Carolina’s 1st
Cody Glass
Fabbro

Nashville
Horvat (retained or not)
Schenn

Carolina
Nashville’s 2nd
Johansen 25% retained

To balance value, Vancouver doing the 2 million retain on RJ was suggested. I can’t do that on the site.

Vancouver gets a RHD and RH Center plus a first
Carolina gets a budget 2C and loses 20 spots for making it work long term for Nashville
Nashville gets a 2c that can help turn their fortunes around a depth RHD to replace Fabbro short term

I don’t expect Vancouver to like it but i don’t see teams giving up any better of a value. Glass is starting to show his potential.

Nashville signs Horvat to a lot term deal (in case that wasn’t understood)
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Glass, Cody
  3. Johansen, Ryan (2 000 000 $ retained)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
NSH
2.
VAN
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Glass, Cody
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
3.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de CAR
Logo de NSH
Logo de PHI
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de VAN
Logo de CAR
Logo de CHI
Logo de CAR
2024
Logo de CAR
Logo de PHI
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
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Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
2025
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
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Logo de CAR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $74 379 417 $112 500 $1 000 000 $8 120 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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27 janv. 2023 à 11 h 44
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If Van got another decent prospect back (not Scott Morrow but someone with legit potential) I think it would look fair
27 janv. 2023 à 11 h 49
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Gonna be tough to make this happen since NSH has absolutely no interest in making this deal.
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27 janv. 2023 à 11 h 59
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Gonna be tough to make this happen since NSH has absolutely no interest in making this deal.


They may not. But they have been mediocre for a while and Johansen has been disappointing. They could use a jolt and roster upgrade. Is there a team out there that pays anything for Johansen with an 8 mil cap hit? I
27 janv. 2023 à 12 h 0
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You don't expect VAN to like it? VAN does fine here, it's NSH that's getting shafted. Even without the retention on Johansen, it's an easy pass for the Preds.
27 janv. 2023 à 12 h 2
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You don't expect VAN to like it? VAN does fine here, it's NSH that's getting shafted. Even without the retention on Johansen, it's an easy pass for the Preds.

Johansen doesn’t have much value. But the Canes like to find little value and make more. Does Vancouver take Glass, Fabbro and a 2nd for Horvat and Schenn?
How does Nashville make that work long term with johansen on the team? Is there a team who even takes Johansen for free at 8 million per?
27 janv. 2023 à 12 h 34
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Maybe we are the ones retaining on Johansen as well. I do think Van makes out the best here. Other option would be swap schenn for Bear. Depends what kind of D Nashville would want. Or could add Hoglander then would probably need Carolina to add an decent prospect. (Like maybe Rees/Forsmark)
27 janv. 2023 à 12 h 40
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Maybe we are the ones retaining on Johansen as well. I do think Van makes out the best here. Other option would be swap schenn for Bear. Depends what kind of D Nashville would want. Or could add Hoglander then would probably need Carolina to add an decent prospect. (Like maybe Rees/Forsmark)

Vancouver doing the retain on johansen could work too. Hard to do that on this site though
27 janv. 2023 à 13 h 11
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Vancouver doing the retain on johansen could work too. Hard to do that on this site though


True it make sense. Even if we luck into Bedard we aren't going to be competing for a few years. So retaining on guys shouldn't be an issue
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Johansen doesn’t have much value. But the Canes like to find little value and make more. Does Vancouver take Glass, Fabbro and a 2nd for Horvat and Schenn?
How does Nashville make that work long term with johansen on the team? Is there a team who even takes Johansen for free at 8 million per?


You're making two assumptions here about NSH, that I would disagree with.

The first is that they should add Horvat. I've got no interest in Horvat for NSH. They're not currently in a place where it makes sense to give up anything of value for him before the deadline as a rental, and I definitely don't want to re-sign him (and with the retention on Johansen here, NSH can't afford it anyway). Assuming he wants at least something like the 8x8 Johansen contract (I'd be surprised if his agent isn't looking for $9M or more per season, given Horvat's production this season), whoever signs him until he's 36 for that is going to have buyer's remorse. Even in the summer, when NSH wouldn't have to give up any assets to sign him, I still wouldn't want the Preds to consider it.

The second is that they should pay to get rid of Johansen. Yes, he's overpaid by about $2M a season, but with only two more years left on his contract after this one it's manageable. It's not like Johansen can't play anymore, and he needs to be healthy scratched or buried in Milwaukee. He's still a good 1B/2A center. For what it would cost to pay someone who'd replace Johansen in the lineup, plus retaining on RJ and/or giving up assets to move him, it's a net loss for NSH.

I really don't want to see Glass get traded either. He's finally getting put in a position to succeed, and it's working. He could easily be the piece that turns this proposal into a lopsided Forsberg for Erat type win for VAN, in just a couple years.
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27 janv. 2023 à 14 h 23
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You're making two assumptions here about NSH, that I would disagree with.

The first is that they should add Horvat. I've got no interest in Horvat for NSH. They're not currently in a place where it makes sense to give up anything of value for him before the deadline as a rental, and I definitely don't want to re-sign him (and with the retention on Johansen here, NSH can't afford it anyway). Assuming he wants at least something like the 8x8 Johansen contract (I'd be surprised if his agent isn't looking for $9M or more per season, given Horvat's production this season), whoever signs him until he's 36 for that is going to have buyer's remorse. Even in the summer, when NSH wouldn't have to give up any assets to sign him, I still wouldn't want the Preds to consider it.

The second is that they should pay to get rid of Johansen. Yes, he's overpaid by about $2M a season, but with only two more years left on his contract after this one it's manageable. It's not like Johansen can't play anymore, and he needs to be healthy scratched or buried in Milwaukee. He's still a good 1B/2A center. For what it would cost to pay someone who'd replace Johansen in the lineup, plus retaining on RJ and/or giving up assets to move him, it's a net loss for NSH.

I really don't want to see Glass get traded either. He's finally getting put in a position to succeed, and it's working. He could easily be the piece that turns this proposal into a lopsided Forsberg for Erat type win for VAN, in just a couple years.


This was excellently expressed. Bravo.
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27 janv. 2023 à 14 h 49
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This was excellently expressed. Bravo.


Thanks!
27 janv. 2023 à 14 h 51
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Cool idea but I don’t think Canes want to be stuck with RoJo for 3 more years even with a bit of retention.
 
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