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If Larkin gets traded

Créé par: Bannedforlife
Date de création initiale: 26 janv. 2023
Publié: 27 janv. 2023
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Description
Sign Bertuzzi to a 1 year contract to give him a chance to rebound his value. Sign and trade him at the 24 deadline to the team of his choice. Overpay Pasta, bring Horvat home, give Domi or ROR a shot at the 2c position until Kasper and the 23 1st are ready to take over. Trade Perron, Vrana and Bertuzzi at the 24 deadline and move guys like Rasmussen, Fabbri and Soderblom up.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Veleno, Joseph31 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Pastrnak, David713 000 000 $
Horvat, Bo78 000 000 $
Domi, Max25 000 000 $
Bertuzzi, Tyler15 000 000 $
Walman, Jake43 500 000 $
Määttä, Olli23 000 000 $
Lankinen, Kevin21 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard-Fantilli-Carlsson-Smith-Yager, Connor-Adam-Leo-Will-Brayden3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (ANA)
  2. Choix de 2024 ronde en 1e (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Any team willing to give up 2 firsts
ANA
    Larkin, Dylan

    2023 TDL
    2.
    DET
    1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (ARI)
    Détails additionnels:
    Any team willing to give up a second
    ARI
    1. Kubalik, Dominik
    Détails additionnels:
    2023 TDL
    3.
    DET
    1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 7e (BOS)
    Détails additionnels:
    Ay team willing to give up anything
    BOS
    1. Zadina, Filip
    Détails additionnels:
    2023 TDL
    4.
    DET
    1. Durzi, Sean
    LAK
    1. Johansson, Albert
    Rachats de contrats
    • Justin Abdelkader: 1 055 556 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Jakub Vrána: 2 625 000 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2383 500 000 $83 457 222 $0 $5 257 500 $42 778 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Berggren, Jonatan
    925 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    Horvat, Bo
    8 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
    Pastrnak, David
    13 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 8
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    Vrána, Jakub
    2 625 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Domi, Max
    5 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA
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    Raymond, Lucas
    925 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
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    Bertuzzi, Tyler
    5 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA
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    Copp, Andrew
    5 625 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Perron, David
    4 750 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Rasmussen, Michael
    1 460 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
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    Kasper, Marco
    950 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
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    Söderblom, Elmer
    878 333 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
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    Fabbri, Robby
    4 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
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    Veleno, Joseph
    1 250 000 $
    C
    RFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Walman, Jake
    3 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
    Seider, Moritz
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
    Husso, Ville
    4 750 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Määttä, Olli
    3 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
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    Hronek, Filip
    4 400 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Lankinen, Kevin
    1 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
    Edvinsson, Simon
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    Durzi, Sean
    1 700 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
    Chiarot, Ben
    4 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3

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    27 janv. à 10 h 17
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    Yeah ur getting a top 3 pick and a future top 5 pick for a pending UFA to a team who is not even close to contending... Also no chance the Kings do that
    27 janv. à 10 h 17
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    Theres no way ANA gives up their chance to Connor Bedard
    27 janv. à 10 h 23
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    Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
    Yeah ur getting a top 3 pick and a future top 5 pick for a pending UFA to a team who is not even close to contending... Also no chance the Kings do that


    Quoting: mastersp4
    Theres no way ANA gives up their chance to Connor Bedard


    Apparently you guys can't read because it says ANY TEAM WILLING TO GIVE UP 2 FIRSTS.
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    27 janv. à 10 h 24
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    It's sad how predictably stupid some people are.
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    27 janv. à 10 h 28
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    So you can't get durzi for Johansson, if you lose Dylan and trade him for futures and not ready now pieces your extending the rebuild and not spending in free agency the next season. You sell the farm sign a couple vet guys for 2 years because that's what yzerman always does and you wait for Kasper and cossa and edvinsson and whoever we get this year and see how it looks in 3 years.
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    27 janv. à 10 h 30
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    Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
    Yeah ur getting a top 3 pick and a future top 5 pick for a pending UFA to a team who is not even close to contending... Also no chance the Kings do that


    Read the trade, it says any team willing to give up 2 firsts. Anaheim is a placeholder team clearly.
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    27 janv. à 10 h 30
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    Quoting: Bannedforlife
    Apparently you guys can't read because it says ANY TEAM WILLING TO GIVE UP 2 FIRSTS.


    But would the Red Wings allow him to talk to teams about an extension? Would he want to make that call as soon as he's traded? If he's leaving his home and the place he's played his whole career, and he's so close to UFA, would he not want to go to open market? If such is the case, no team should give up 2 1st Rd picks.
    27 janv. à 10 h 46
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    Quoting: Jfstompers
    So you can't get durzi for Johansson, if you lose Dylan and trade him for futures and not ready now pieces your extending the rebuild and not spending in free agency the next season. You sell the farm sign a couple vet guys for 2 years because that's what yzerman always does and you wait for Kasper and cossa and edvinsson and whoever we get this year and see how it looks in 3 years.


    Horvat is a distinct possibility with or without Larkin resigning. I think a team wth horvat, domi, copp and Kasper down the middle can compete with lethal shooters like pasta and a rehabbed vrana on the wing. Especially with Rasmussen, Veleno and Fabbri able to take face offs when injuries happen. Defence looks super solid with chariot in the press box. Johansson ++ to get the Durzi deal done.
    27 janv. à 10 h 48
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    But would the Red Wings allow him to talk to teams about an extension? Would he want to make that call as soon as he's traded? If he's leaving his home and the place he's played his whole career, and he's so close to UFA, would he not want to go to open market? If such is the case, no team should give up 2 1st Rd picks.


    If Larkin isn't interested in staying just ask him where he wants to play. An extended Larkin should fetch 2 1sts, a 1st and 2nd at the very least
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    27 janv. à 11 h 4
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    Quoting: Bannedforlife
    Apparently you guys can't read because it says ANY TEAM WILLING TO GIVE UP 2 FIRSTS.


    Actually I don't mind the trade. Any team that trades for him is true contender and probably don't have for him next season. No reason why Larkin doesn't sign with the Wings in the summer, even if traded at TDL
    27 janv. à 11 h 9
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    Quoting: palhal
    Actually I don't mind the trade. Any team that trades for him is true contender and probably don't have for him next season. No reason why Larkin doesn't sign with the Wings in the summer, even if traded at TDL


    If Hagel gets 2 1sts I'm positive that Larkin does
    27 janv. à 11 h 42
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    Where to even begin with this...
    27 janv. à 11 h 44
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    Quoting: Datsyukian13
    Where to even begin with this...


    A "Like," probably
    27 janv. à 11 h 46
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    Johansson has exactly 37 games in North American professional hockey. Durzi has 111 games in the NHL, is our second-unit power-play QB, and is scoring at the rate of almost half a point a game, despite being played on his off side this season due to team mis-construction. This offer is almost as bad as us suggesting Sam Helenius for Simon Edvinsson.
    27 janv. à 12 h 14
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Johansson has exactly 37 games in North American professional hockey. Durzi has 111 games in the NHL, is our second-unit power-play QB, and is scoring at the rate of almost half a point a game, despite being played on his off side this season due to team mis-construction. This offer is almost as bad as us suggesting Sam Helenius for Simon Edvinsson.


    If this is the only nitpick of my AGM, I'd call that a win
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    27 janv. à 12 h 40
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    Who is giving up two firsts for Larkin when Toews, ROR, Horvat, and possibly Henrique are also available?
    27 janv. à 12 h 42
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    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    Who is giving up two firsts for Larkin when Toews, ROR, Horvat, and possibly Henrique are also available?


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    27 janv. à 12 h 51
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    Quoting: Bannedforlife
    Tampa Bay


    Might want to check your notes on that one, Tampa doesn't have their 23 or 24 1sts.
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    27 janv. à 12 h 53
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    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    Might want to check your notes on that one, Tampa doesn't have their 23 or 24 1sts.


    Tampa Bay paid 2 1sts for Brandon Hagel, I think rental or extended Larkin gets at least that
    27 janv. à 13 h 3
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    Quoting: Bannedforlife
    Tampa Bay paid 2 1sts for Brandon Hagel, I think rental or extended Larkin gets at least that


    You apparently misunderstood my question. Which team is going to give you two firsts for Larkin? Not what kind of team, find the match. Now why is that team giving up two firsts, when the likes of Toews, ROR, Horvat, and Maybe Henrique can all be acquired for less?

    Larkin (or any pending UFA for that matter) will not return a Hagel deal. Hagel was 23 when the deal was done, on the first year of a three year, 1.5 AAV deal, and his RFA rights are intact at the end. Tampa bought cap security with the deal that Larkinn does not come with. Any extension is going to carry an AAV probably 5 times higher than Hagel if not more. Implying that Larkin should return the same deal because he's a comparable player completely ignores the reason as to WHY Hagel got that kind of return for Chicago.

    Sure, if you retain 50% on Larkin, and the acquiring team can get him to agree to a 2x2 extension before the trade, you too can have two firsts for him.
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    28 janv. à 13 h 20
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    Come on. Zadina is worth more than a 7th. Ducks picks would be worth Larkin for sure but not any team. Larkin is worth more than 2 late firsts.
     
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