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If Everything worked Out PERFECT for Ottawa

Créé par: Riddick19
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 27 janv. 2023
Publié: 27 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
31 800 000 $
3875 000 $
3900 000 $
3925 000 $
3875 000 $
3900 000 $
3800 000 $
3775 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
41 750 000 $
31 850 000 $
88 500 000 $
2900 000 $
53 000 000 $
3950 000 $
64 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
2900 000 $
3800 000 $
3800 000 $
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1.
OTT
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. Zaitsev, Nikita
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
    Détails additionnels:
    2nd rounder is a sweetener for taking the last year of Zaitsev's contract.
    2.
    OTT
    1. Whitecloud, Zach
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
    Détails additionnels:
    Whitecloud would be dumped as they wouldn't need his long-term contract with him likely being bumped to 3rd pairing as Vegas is great without him. Pietrangelo, Hague, Martinez, Theodore, McNabb, & Hutton would be their top 6.
    VGK
    1. Formenton, Alex
    2. Talbot, Cam
    Détails additionnels:
    Talbot would be a 2023 Trade deadline deal for goaltender insurance. Formenton provided he is allowed to play when crap blows over.
    3.
    OTT
    1. Garand, Dylan
    2. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
    3. Lindgren, Ryan
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
    5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
    Détails additionnels:
    Lindgren is a throw in to make the money work. 2nd round pick is the sweetener for Ottawa taking him.
    NYR
    1. DeBrincat, Alex
    Détails additionnels:
    This would be ONLY if Ottawa wants to go in a very different direction. Especially if Ottawa lucks out in the draft Lottery. I'm looking at it from an offseason move not the trade deadline.
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    UFA - 8
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    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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    NMC
    UFA - 2
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
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    7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
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    4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
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    863 333 $863 333 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
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    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    C
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    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
    AD
    RFA - 3
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    835 000 $835 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 5
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    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 5
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    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    925 000 $925 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
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    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
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    1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    950 000 $950 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
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    762 500 $762 500 $
    C, AG
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    27 janv. à 0 h 39
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    Amirov Forever
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    DeBrincat is good and all, but is he THAT good? No, the Rangers quickly decline. Also, Lindgren is not a throw in, he is a fantastic defenseman on a great deal
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    27 janv. à 0 h 42
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    Whitecloud is good and on a good contract. If anything the second should be going to Vegas lol
    27 janv. à 0 h 44
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    Oh yeah, Lindgren is totally just a throw in.. lol

    Why would Vegas ever make that trade, its terrible for them.
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    27 janv. à 0 h 49
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    technically in a perfect scenario doesn’t ottawa end up with bedard?
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    27 janv. à 0 h 50
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    Quoting: gavinray
    Whitecloud is good and on a good contract. If anything the second should be going to Vegas lol


    It would be the reason Vegas HAD to move him. Whitecloud isn't going to bump anyone in the top 4. Hutton and McNabb are just as good only McNabb is signed for 3 years which suits Vegas because they really need the cap space. Plus if Formenton clears the WJC which that trade totally hinges upon? He's a guy who can play on your 2nd or 3rd line and score you 20 goals and is lethal on the PK. I stand by that trade, again provided Formenton clears the legal stuff. If he does? Formenton's value is not cheap.
    27 janv. à 0 h 58
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    Quoting: bagelbob
    technically in a perfect scenario doesn’t ottawa end up with bedard?


    Yes obviously.... I actually had a scenerio where Ottawa wins and trades Bedard.... NOIT THAT THEY WOULD... But wanted to see what people would think of the value in return. I had the trade;

    To ANA;

    C. Bedard

    To Ott;

    J. Drysdale, M. McTavish, 3rd overall (according to tankathon lol), and 2024 1st rounder.

    Steep price for ANA but Bedard is a Generational talent. Lets be honest whoever gets Bedard isn't ever going to move him. Part of the reason it would be so high is because you're likely getting a point per game player at ELC salary for 3 full seasons. Ana would still have Zegras, Terry, Comtois, Zellwegar, Gaucher, and Luneau to build around.... Ana is really the only team that could do the trade in my opinion.
    27 janv. à 1 h 0
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    Rangers don't have the cap for DeBrincat, and besides it's an overpay by the Rangers.
    How can cost efficient (Whitecloud) be surplus? Teams need 7 or 8 NHL calibre Dmen. Now your trade cost makes sense just in personnel but not the Whitecloud statement
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    27 janv. à 6 h 8
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    Quoting: Riddick19
    It would be the reason Vegas HAD to move him. Whitecloud isn't going to bump anyone in the top 4. Hutton and McNabb are just as good only McNabb is signed for 3 years which suits Vegas because they really need the cap space. Plus if Formenton clears the WJC which that trade totally hinges upon? He's a guy who can play on your 2nd or 3rd line and score you 20 goals and is lethal on the PK. I stand by that trade, again provided Formenton clears the legal stuff. If he does? Formenton's value is not cheap.


    There’s not a scenario where we trade Whitecloud, especially a scenario where we pay lol
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    27 janv. à 7 h 56
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    Modifié 27 janv. à 8 h 3
    Quoting: Riddick19
    It would be the reason Vegas HAD to move him. Whitecloud isn't going to bump anyone in the top 4. Hutton and McNabb are just as good only McNabb is signed for 3 years which suits Vegas because they really need the cap space.


    Martinez is definitely the guy that they would be moving as much as they love him if someone had to go. He's already been shopped before if I'm not mistaken last off-season or during this one.

    Doesn't matter if he's better than Whitecloud, he's a 35 yo dman who has a ton of miles on him, with a 5.25m cap hit, and one year left on his contract. If they need cap, it only makes sense to move him. Moving Whitecloud who has almost half the cap hit and 5 more years doesn't help from a cap perspective.
    27 janv. à 9 h 24
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    This is just a massive L everywhere
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    27 janv. à 14 h 33
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    Lindgren is extremely valuable. He is perfect for Fox and is elite defensively on a cheap deal. Rangers probably don't accept even for Lindgren and a first
    27 janv. à 18 h 55
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Oh yeah, Lindgren is totally just a throw in.. lol


    Yeah removing the picks would make more sense

    DeBrincat for Lafreniere + Lindgren

    Problem is Lindgren not a RHD and that's what the Sens need

    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Why would Vegas ever make that trade, its terrible for them.


    Formenton was a very high quality young player before the scandal was made known (lead the league in SH goalies as a rookie, scored 13 more goals at ES), he is the 2nd fastest skater behind McDavid

    It's still possible that he comes back next year but who knows at this point? He might have ruined his career though

    Nobody is going to trade for him now lol (as it would be surprising that any of these guys from the 2018 Team Canada are going to be traded until the situation is "resolved")

    Look at Mitch Miller situation. People never learn.

    What a waste of talent if the guy is guilty

    https://www.silversevensens.com/2022/1/26/22901993/alex-formenton-has-arrived-ottawa-senators-sens-nhl
    27 janv. à 21 h 35
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    Yeah removing the picks would make more sense

    DeBrincat for Lafreniere + Lindgren

    Problem is Lindgren not a RHD and that's what the Sens need



    Formenton was a very high quality young player before the scandal was made known (lead the league in SH goalies as a rookie, scored 13 more goals at ES), he is the 2nd fastest skater behind McDavid

    It's still possible that he comes back next year but who knows at this point? He might have ruined his career though

    Nobody is going to trade for him now lol (as it would be surprising that any of these guys from the 2018 Team Canada are going to be traded until the situation is "resolved")

    Look at Mitch Miller situation. People never learn.

    What a waste of talent if the guy is guilty

    https://www.silversevensens.com/2022/1/26/22901993/alex-formenton-has-arrived-ottawa-senators-sens-nhl


    I could very well see us trading for Formenton, but he doesn’t hold much if any value. A 3rd at the absolute most. The problem is you have Whitecloud going back the other way which just doesn’t happen. Not for anything less than a first +
    28 janv. à 15 h 7
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    Quoting: VGKNation702
    I could very well see us trading for Formenton, but he doesn’t hold much if any value. A 3rd at the absolute most. The problem is you have Whitecloud going back the other way which just doesn’t happen. Not for anything less than a first +


    He currently has ZERO value because of the Team Canada scandal situation hanging over his head. We don't know if he's guilty but it's impossible to not be suspicious as he's the only RFA not in the NHL this season. And it's not because of a contract dispute or a separation with the team as pretty much every team would have traded for him in different circumstances

    If his name gets cleared, then he has pretty significant value again. No team will be able to get him for a 3rd if that happens.

    Before the scandal, Sens fans wouldn't have traded him for anything less than a Top-15 pick, some were even saying a top-10 pick (a guy with NHL scouting experience notably)

    Formenton shouldn't be proposed in ACGMs, it's just not realistic right now. I have no idea why people keep throwing him. Must be some kind of ignorance regarding the situation

    So it's impossible for people to say if Formenton for Whitecloud would make sense as people judgment is heavily influenced by the context

    Any team giving an asset to trade for him would be stupid (potential PR nightmare too)

    Ottawa would be as stupid to trade him now (lowest value possible) unless they were offered a very good asset. Might as well wait and see what happens.
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