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Créé par: leafs101
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 janv. 2023
Publié: 26 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
ik all trades are questionable. I wouldn't wanna pay that chychrun price either. so lets talk but lets keep that in mind here
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ARI
  1. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Meier, Timo (3 000 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Minten, Fraser
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $79 445 616 $212 500 $0 $3 054 384 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
0 $0 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
827 500 $827 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
840 630 $840 630 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
RFA - 1

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26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 24
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How is Hartman worth almost as much as Chychrun. This site is ridiculous
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 26
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Quoting: RipNasty
How is Hartman worth almost as much as Chychrun. This site is ridiculous


how is what i paid for hartman worth close to what I did for chychrun

i gave our top two prospects for chychrun

and the year on the 1st matters you need to entice teams to take later year picks

and yes, this is ridiculous, i'm aware of that
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 26
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Nothing but trash for Hartman. Kerfoot, cap dump. C prospect who does nothing for Minnesota and AHL prospect and 2025 1st round pick. Minnesota wouldn't accept this
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 27
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Nothing but trash for Hartman. Kerfoot, cap dump. C prospect who does nothing for Minnesota and AHL prospect and 2025 1st round pick. Minnesota wouldn't accept this


that's a stretch. Kerfoot isn't a cap dump, defensively reliable winger, can play C, can play any line 1 through 4. Simply not the case. Why does the C/LW prospect do nothing for Minny? Not saying this trade is great and minny must accept, but I think your valuation of the players is very much off
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 27
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Quoting: RipNasty
How is Hartman worth almost as much as Chychrun. This site is ridiculous


He actually didn't give up anything for Hartman. Kerfoot? Cap dump. C or d prospect who would be AHL piece on wild. Ahl body / nothing prospect? He literally gave nothing. 2025 1st round pick is nothing
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 30
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Quoting: leafs101
that's a stretch. Kerfoot isn't a cap dump, defensively reliable winger, can play C, can play any line 1 through 4. Simply not the case. Why does the C/LW prospect do nothing for Minny? Not saying this trade is great and minny must accept, but I think your valuation of the players is very much off


Kerfoot is a cap dump and final year of contract with zero production and does nothing for Minnesota. In what world does Hartman get traded for Kerfoot, nothing prospects and 2025 1st round pick? Minnesota isn't giving up an important player like Hartman for these offer
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 35
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Kerfoot is a cap dump and final year of contract with zero production and does nothing for Minnesota. In what world does Hartman get traded for Kerfoot, nothing prospects and 2025 1st round pick? Minnesota isn't giving up an important player like Hartman for these offer


"zero production" - always good for 40 points, had 50 last year

in a world where maybe hartman isn't as incredible as you seem to think, and has had just one outlier season. Coach seemed realll pleased with him last game. Good player, but he's somewhere in-between his career averages and his season last year

I agree maybe the 2025 pick might need to come up a year but like I've also very clearly stated i know this whole post is not realistic. But i think your valuation of all players involved is simply not accurate
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 36
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how is what i paid for hartman worth close to what I did for chychrun

i gave our top two prospects for chychrun

and the year on the 1st matters you need to entice teams to take later year picks

and yes, this is ridiculous, i'm aware of that


I just don't see any need for either Hartman or Chychrun. Chychrun is massively overrated and our defense is great as is. No need to move out a long term and cost effective Sandin for a guy that would still just be our #2 LD.
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 38
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Kerfoot is a cap dump and final year of contract with zero production and does nothing for Minnesota. In what world does Hartman get traded for Kerfoot, nothing prospects and 2025 1st round pick? Minnesota isn't giving up an important player like Hartman for these offer


That zero production has in fact outscored Hartman this season. Its generally wise to look up stuff before spouting blatantly wrong information
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 39
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I just don't see any need for either Hartman or Chychrun. Chychrun is massively overrated and our defense is great as is. No need to move out a long term and cost effective Sandin for a guy that would still just be our #2 LD.


not saying i wanna do this. But im not so sure rielly is better. WIth Lily too think it just means you have two decent top pairs and a strong 3rd pair. I see the argument for, but the proposed cost is also way too much to be worth it
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 39
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That zero production has in fact outscored Hartman this season. Its generally wise to look up stuff before spouting blatantly wrong information


to be fair per game he hasn't, but hartman has been no art ross candidate either
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 39
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He actually didn't give up anything for Hartman. Kerfoot? Cap dump. C or d prospect who would be AHL piece on wild. Ahl body / nothing prospect? He literally gave nothing. 2025 1st round pick is nothing


Oh right I forgot, everyone on the wild are better than any leaf. Matthews wouldn't even make the Wild I bet.
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 40
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not saying i wanna do this. But im not so sure rielly is better. WIth Lily too think it just means you have two decent top pairs and a strong 3rd pair. I see the argument for, but the proposed cost is also way too much to be worth it


Way too much to even consider it. Chychrun isn't an elite top pair defenceman he's being billed as. He's an injury prone 2nd pair offensive defenceman.
26 janv. 2023 à 17 h 41
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Way too much to even consider it. Chychrun isn't an elite top pair defenceman he's being billed as. He's an injury prone 2nd pair offensive defenceman.


Top pair D, lets be more fair. But costs a ton and does have some injury concern, agreed.
26 janv. 2023 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: Wildnochance
Nothing but trash for Hartman. Kerfoot, cap dump. C prospect who does nothing for Minnesota and AHL prospect and 2025 1st round pick. Minnesota wouldn't accept this


I'd take the 2025 1st. Matthews and Nylander potentially gone via free agency for 24-25. Could be a really good 1st
 
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