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Saving the season

Créé par: DQPWC
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2023
Publié: 25 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Meier, Timo
SJS
  1. Dobson, Noah
  2. Dufour, William
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
2.
NYI
  1. Horvat, Bo
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Cizikas, Casey
  3. Pulock, Ryan
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
3.
EDM
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
4.
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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2024
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Logo de NYI
2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $75 832 463 $245 796 $1 402 500 $6 667 537 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
836 667 $836 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2

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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 39
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Isles are not trading Dobson, Pulock cannot be traded as he has a full NMC, Edmonton wants nothing to do with Bailey, Hamonic is not needed.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: Warrior24
Isles are not trading Dobson, Pulock cannot be traded as he has a full NMC, Edmonton wants nothing to do with Bailey, Hamonic is not needed.


well then they won't be fixed
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 43
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why are you trading pulock for a rental?
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: bagelbob
why are you trading pulock for a rental?


because he is terrible and should be moved while he still has perceived value
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 48
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well then they won't be fixed


These trades wouldn’t fix then anyway and set them up to be worse now, and into the future by giving up more 1st round picks.

The season is over, they need to move out Varly, Mayfield and Parise for picks.

Trade Nelson in the offseason, and buyout Bailey.

Then they can look at adding a top line LW and go with:

New LW-Barzal-Wahlstrom
Lee-Raty-Palmeri
Beau-Pageau-Holmstrom
Parise-Cizikas-Fasching
Martin
Clutter

Pelech-Pulock
Romanov-Dobson
Bolduc- New 3 RD
Salo
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 50
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It's already massive and very ill-advised for the Isles imo, but this deal probably needs more going to SJ based on Grier saying he wanted 3 1sts for Karlsson (max 18% retained) and _at least_ a 1st + top prospect for Meier. I don't think Dufour alone checks the top prospect box.

I think trading away all your 1sts is a bad idea. You'll be the NY Panthers
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 51
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These trades wouldn’t fix then anyway and set them up to be worse now, and into the future by giving up more 1st round picks.

The season is over, they need to move out Varly, Mayfield and Parise for picks.

Trade Nelson in the offseason, and buyout Bailey.

Then they can look at adding a top line LW and go with:

New LW-Barzal-Wahlstrom
Lee-Raty-Palmeri
Beau-Pageau-Holmstrom
Parise-Cizikas-Fasching
Martin
Clutter

Pelech-Pulock
Romanov-Dobson
Bolduc- New 3 RD
Salo


I don't think this season is over yet. If they lose these next three, then yes it is. You cannot punt seasons when you have a goalie as good as Sorokin. Also a little ridiculous to suggest trading Nelson, who's been the best forward on the team for quite some time now.
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 52
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Quoting: DQPWC
because he is terrible and should be moved while he still has perceived value


i don't think he's terrible? he's not a future norris winner or anything but he's still a really solid top 4 guy who's fairly paid for what he brings to the table. RDs maintain their value in spite of being terrible for a long time (see: seth jones, rasmus ristolainen). if they move him i want a first and a top prospect, and i think they could get that. team's not good enough to bother with rentals
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 52
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Quoting: poeticentropy
It's already massive and very ill-advised for the Isles imo, but this deal probably needs more going to SJ based on Grier saying he wanted 3 1sts for Karlsson (max 18% retained) and _at least_ a 1st + top prospect for Meier. I don't think Dufour alone checks the top prospect box.

I think trading away all your 1sts is a bad idea. You'll be the NY Panthers


I figure Dobson makes up enough value to cover discrepancies in value, but you're probably right and they'd likely need to include Raty or Holmstrom as well
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 53
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I don't think this season is over yet. If they lose these next three, then yes it is. You cannot punt seasons when you have a goalie as good as Sorokin. Also a little ridiculous to suggest trading Nelson, who's been the best forward on the team for quite some time now.


nelson is the guy you move because he has the most value, and because he's older so less likely to be a part of the next championship window and a drop-off that will drastically lower his value could come at any time.
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 54
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Whose season is this saving? Because it's most certainly not saving the Isles.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 57
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That Sharks deal is horrific. Turning 23 year old Noah Dobson and our next three 1st rounders into a 32 year old Karlsson + a guy we'd need to give $9M+ this summer would set this franchise back by about a decade - they already haven't made a 1st round pick since 2019 and here they are, trading away their next 3? Jesus Christ.
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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 5
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Congrats you made the isles significantly worse lol
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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 5
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I figure Dobson makes up enough value to cover discrepancies in value, but you're probably right and they'd likely need to include Raty or Holmstrom as well


Whenever you have the chance to trade a 23 top pair D you gotta do it
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 6
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I don't think this season is over yet. If they lose these next three, then yes it is. You cannot punt seasons when you have a goalie as good as Sorokin. Also a little ridiculous to suggest trading Nelson, who's been the best forward on the team for quite some time now.


Nelson has played poor for about 20 games now, it is time for him to go and bring in Raty full time.
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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 6
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I don't think this season is over yet. If they lose these next three, then yes it is. You cannot punt seasons when you have a goalie as good as Sorokin. Also a little ridiculous to suggest trading Nelson, who's been the best forward on the team for quite some time now.


The season is over, the window is closed. The isles are going to be forced into a rebuild
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 7
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That Sharks deal is horrific. Turning 23 year old Noah Dobson and our next three 1st rounders into a 32 year old Karlsson + a guy we'd need to give $9M+ this summer would set this franchise back by about a decade - they already haven't made a 1st round pick since 2019 and here they are, trading away their next 3? Jesus Christ.


Mike Milbury finally made a cap friendly account
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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 8
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Quoting: DQPWC
because he is terrible and should be moved while he still has perceived value


Pulock has been a top 30 D in the league for the past 5 seasons. It doesn’t matter what your opinion is.
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 9
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Whenever you have the chance to trade a 23 top pair D you gotta do it


dobson is not that good lol
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 9
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Nelson has played poor for about 20 games now, it is time for him to go and bring in Raty full time.


ur insane if u think raty is close to nelson at this point
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 10
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Pulock has been a top 30 D in the league for the past 5 seasons. It doesn’t matter what your opinion is.


awful take, guy is terrible when pelech isnt there to mask him
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 10
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Mike Milbury finally made a cap friendly account


This would make the Yashin deal look like a shrewd move. Adding at least $17M to next year's cap while subtracting an appropriately paid RD2 in Dobson & sending out every 1st round pick you can get your hands on is just something new.
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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 13
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dobson is not that good lol


I don't youll find anyone or any stat that proves Dobson isn't a top pair D. He's one of the better transition D in the NHL and a top 5 goal scoring D in the league.
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 17
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awful take, guy is terrible when pelech isnt there to mask him


the difference between my take and yours is that you're giving your opinion. It's a fact that pulock is a top 30 D
25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 18
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This would make the Yashin deal look like a shrewd move. Adding at least $17M to next year's cap while subtracting an appropriately paid RD2 in Dobson & sending out every 1st round pick you can get your hands on is just something new.


Erik Karlsson going to get traded to another non playoff team only to return to form as a replacement level defenseman next season
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