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Identifying Long-Term Fits

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2022-23 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2023
Publié: 25 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The most controversial trade here will probably be my Jake Walman proposal, but I also think that he could be a really interesting bridge player between Skjei (who's likely to secure massive amounts of coin from some team in 2024 UFA) and Nikishin (who's timed to arrive in 2025).
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Walman, Jake
Détails additionnels:
Trade-and-Sign: Walman extends with Carolina for 4 years, $2.4M AAV.
DET
  1. Bokk, Dominik
  2. Drury, Jack
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
2.
CAR
  1. Johansen, Ryan (4 000 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Rees, Jamieson
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
3.
PHI
  1. Coghlan, Dylan
  2. Heimosalmi, Aleksi
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de VAN
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Logo de CHI
Logo de CAR
2024
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Logo de CAR
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Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $78 166 917 $112 500 $1 000 000 $4 333 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Predators de Nashville
0 $0 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 23
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I think the wings keep wallman and resign him, but if not this is very fair value for him, rather it be the 2023 2nd, but not even close to a deal breaker
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 26
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Yeah... No team will ever retain 4 mil over 2 extra years on a player. On an expiring contract sure not with 2 more years left. Nashville declines so fast.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 27
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Detroit takes that and runs, But it's sounding like 90% chance as of right now that Yzerman resigns Walman. He's been the perfect partner with Mo Seider.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 28
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You have a very different vision than I do.
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 29
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Yeah... No team will ever retain 4 mil over 2 extra years on a player. On an expiring contract sure not with 2 more years left. Nashville declines so fast.


Do you really think that a team would take Johansen for any significant assets otherwise? He's underperformed his contract for years outside of last year.
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 30
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Yeah... No team will ever retain 4 mil over 2 extra years on a player. On an expiring contract sure not with 2 more years left. Nashville declines so fast.


well san jose kind off did it on burns and the kings did it for carter for 2 years, so it possible. but this is not worth if for nashville to do it though.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 32
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Bokk is an interestingly good fit for Detroit: he was drafted by STL (we have a ton of STL players) and is German (would mold with Seider).

Drury is meh. Could we get Gunler instead and drop the 2nd to a 3rd?
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 32
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Walman has looked really good with paired with Seider. You can have Chiarot.
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well san jose kind off did it on burns and the kings did it for carter for 2 years, so it possible. but this is not worth if for nashville to do it though.


Probably one or two more 2nd round caliber prospects, like Gunler or Koivunen, could do it. Nashville needs more youth in their farm.
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 33
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Probably one more 2nd round caliber prospect, like Gunler or Koivunen, could do it.


depends on what is nashville's vison for the future really.
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 35
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Bokk is an interestingly good fit for Detroit: he was drafted by STL (we have a ton of STL players) and is German (would mold with Seider).

Drury is meh. Could we get Gunler instead and drop the 2nd to a 3rd?


The pick I have for you guys is Philly's 2024 2nd. That's a premium draft pick almost worth a 1st rounder that you probably don't want to downgrade.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 37
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The pick I have for you guys is Philly's 2024 2nd. That's a premium draft pick almost worth a 1st rounder that you probably don't want to downgrade.


Sure, but I like Gunler more smile
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 37
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Detroit takes that and runs, But it's sounding like 90% chance as of right now that Yzerman resigns Walman. He's been the perfect partner with Mo Seider.


You remember when he was traded to Detroit and Mickey mentioned that Yzerman had been following him since his freshman year at Providence College.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 41
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Actually nvm, didn't see the amount of retention.

Preds will hold onto Ryjo
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 41
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well san jose kind off did it on burns and the kings did it for carter for 2 years, so it possible. but this is not worth if for nashville to do it though.


Yes but this is 12 million of retention which is way more than both of those as well as both of those teams weren't playoffs teams. Nashville is (potentially being 3 points out of the WC with 1 game in hand) and the only way I see them make a trade like that is if they implode over the next month AND they see no hope next year. They have a win now team core built, I just cant see them throwing that away.
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You remember when he was traded to Detroit and Mickey mentioned that Yzerman had been following him since his freshman year at Providence College.


Yup, That's exactly why i feel that he's going to be a Red Wing for quite some time. He even mentioned that Sunny is everything he was hoping for. If he doesn't get his ask for sunny. It wouldn't shock me if he's not resigned as well.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 45
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Yeah... No team will ever retain 4 mil over 2 extra years on a player. On an expiring contract sure not with 2 more years left. Nashville declines so fast.


I thought the same thing and then San Jose traded Burns to Carolina.
25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 51
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I thought the same thing and then San Jose traded Burns to Carolina.


San Jose was never going to be a playoff team tho and are finally going into a rebuild, Nashville isn't anywhere close to the same situation
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25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 11
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Do you really think that a team would take Johansen for any significant assets otherwise? He's underperformed his contract for years outside of last year.


Do you consider this to be significant assets though? If I were a GM, $4M of dead cap space for 2.5 seasons isn't worth a 2nd and a mediocre prospect. And it's not like Johansen is a washed up scrub who can't play anymore. Sure he's overpaid at $8M, but he's still a respectable 1B/2A center.
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25 janv. 2023 à 18 h 19
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San Jose was never going to be a playoff team tho and are finally going into a rebuild, Nashville isn't anywhere close to the same situation


I agree it was a completely different situation. I wasn't commenting on the trade, just the amount of retention.
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