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Créé par: nmstars31
Équipe: 2022-23 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2023
Publié: 25 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Seravelli mentioned VGK as a possible landing spot for Dumba if Minnesota opts to move him and Stone's injury lasts longer. Tarasenko is an add to make up for Stone. There is roughly 1.5M in cap available to make other small moves with Stone on LTIR but I wanted to show the likely playoff lineup with this squad. There is obviously a problem with McNabb locked up for term as the 7th D but that is a problem for the future that will likely be remedied by banishing him to Arizona at a cost or utilizing the tendency for older, physical players like himself and Martinez to spend quality time on LTIR.
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Brisson, Brendan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Using the Manson trade last year (COL 2nd and Helleson for 50% retention) as a comparable, Brisson a former 29OA who can hopefully become a cost controlled player to slot in with Boldy in the near future.
2.
VGK
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (3 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
The Blues decide to finally pull the trigger on moving Tarasenko as they are outside of the playoff picture and build around Thomas, Kyrou, and Buchnevich
STL
  1. Korczak, Kaedan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Vegas needs to make a splash and improve their top six without Stone so they pull a big name without paying the Meier - Horvat - Kane premium. The strong play of Pachal and potential to resign Dumba (with the cap from Brossoit, Hill & Kessel) makes Korczak expendable
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $85 758 317 $0 $20 000 $-3 258 317 $

Formation

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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
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760 000 $760 000 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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0 $0 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
766 667 $766 667 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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2 175 000 $2 175 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 294 150 $2 294 150 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 4
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $ (1 200 000 $$1M1 200 000 $$1M)
G
UFA - 1

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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 16
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Bill Guerin said that he wasnt trading Dumba unless he could make his team better. Not sure if he would go for a prospect and pick considering Minney is currently in a playoff spot.
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 17
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So basically the Knights Will depleted all of their picks and prospects for Matt Dumba and Vlad? At some point this team
Is going to be a bottom dweller with nothing but 30 something’s eating up large sums of cap space
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: amareka
Bill Guerin said that he wasnt trading Dumba unless he could make his team better. Not sure if he would go for a prospect and pick considering Minney is currently in a playoff spot.


(Check the standings again)
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 18
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The Wild accept.
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 18
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Quoting: MNBassman
(Check the standings again)


My bad
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 20
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Vegas would be lunatics to make these trades
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 26
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Quoting: amareka
Bill Guerin said that he wasnt trading Dumba unless he could make his team better. Not sure if he would go for a prospect and pick considering Minney is currently in a playoff spot.


Yes, the assumption is that they have a change of perspective or in the standings.
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: Caniac555
So basically the Knights Will depleted all of their picks and prospects for Matt Dumba and Vlad? At some point this team
Is going to be a bottom dweller with nothing but 30 something’s eating up large sums of cap space


Yes, lets not pretend its out of character for Vegas to go all in for a championship. Go all in when your window is open and then bottom out for top talent when you're old and wasted. For teams like Carolina, Nashville, Dallas patience and a solid mix of contention while considering the future to always be in a playoff slot is nice but I don't think anyone believes that is Vegas' strategy
25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 30
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I’m not thrilled about the Blues dealing with VGK.

But this is a very competitive offer.
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: AC14
I’m not thrilled about the Blues dealing with VGK.

But this is a very competitive offer.


I considered not including Korczak but I like to stay on the side of overpayment with these trades to demonstrate that the team can afford the player in question. Plus the market for Vlad can heat up quickly by teams that miss out on Meier Kane Horvat so it is important for a team like Vegas without the top end pieces like the Devils (Holtz Nemec) or Rangers (Laf Kakko) to make a strong offer early
25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 38
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Sure and agreed, BUT at a certain point they are going to have to keep a few prospects or picks around, no? Why in the world would they go hunting for Matt Dumba. With respect to him, Vegas’s MO isn’t to go small game hunting. When they hunt, they go on a safari.

Using your argument they should be Chychrun and Horvat.

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Yes, lets not pretend its out of character for Vegas to go all in for a championship. Go all in when your window is open and then bottom out for top talent when you're old and wasted. For teams like Carolina, Nashville, Dallas patience and a solid mix of contention while considering the future to always be in a playoff slot is nice but I don't think anyone believes that is Vegas' strategy
25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 41
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I don't know. I would like one star player. Maybe like a Tarasenko. but, I don't know
25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 48
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Quoting: nmstars31
I considered not including Korczak but I like to stay on the side of overpayment with these trades to demonstrate that the team can afford the player in question. Plus the market for Vlad can heat up quickly by teams that miss out on Meier Kane Horvat so it is important for a team like Vegas without the top end pieces like the Devils (Holtz Nemec) or Rangers (Laf Kakko) to make a strong offer early


I think if you were to level out a bit due to a lull in the market. The way to do that would be by switching the 2nd to a 3rd which is very reasonable.

I think a first and korczak is a good baseline
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25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 48
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Quoting: myboykole
I don't know. I would like one star player. Maybe like a Tarasenko. but, I don't know


Tarasenko star player ? When was the last time you watched him play ?
25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: Caniac555
Sure and agreed, BUT at a certain point they are going to have to keep a few prospects or picks around, no? Why in the world would they go hunting for Matt Dumba. With respect to him, Vegas’s MO isn’t to go small game hunting. When they hunt, they go on a safari.

Using your argument they should be Chychrun and Horvat.


I think Chychrun is disqualified because Vegas needs a RHD and he will be much more expensive than Dumba. Not to mention the post is inspired by Seravelli speculating VGK as a possible Dumba suitor.
They will probably go after Horvat too but I doubt they can beat other suitors, plus I like Tarasenko because of all the Russians in the VGK system. Also he has cup experience and a history with Pietrangelo.

To your point around prospects, Most of their core is signed for foreseeable future with only a few roster spots to fill in the next year or two. To that effect they have Dean, Dorofoyev, Miromanov, Cormier, Pachal and others that aren't well known but is favoured by the org (every team has these). Plus they can fill with cheap free agents.
25 janv. 2023 à 12 h 0
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
Tarasenko star player ? When was the last time you watched him play ?


82 points last year and names mean more to casual fans. I'm sure many fans rank him higher than Horvat (wrongly mind you)
25 janv. 2023 à 12 h 15
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Blues would say yes I feel
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25 janv. 2023 à 15 h 10
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I doubt VGK moves from Brisson, seeing as he's one of their better prospects. Rumours were VGK was interested in Gavrikov?
They'd probably just part with a 1st to beef that D core.

STL trade seems fine. If they're sellers.
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25 janv. 2023 à 17 h 50
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Yea no on that Dumba trade. Brisson needs to stay unless he’s going out for an under 30 C/W. We don’t have a need for RHD, Theo supposed to be back after all star break. He’s already skating. He plays right and so does Petro. We’re not trading a 1st plus for a bottom pairing defenseman.
 
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