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Barbashev asking price

Créé par: bhuntlol
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2023
Publié: 25 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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    2682 500 000 $84 286 246 $212 500 $0 $-1 786 246 $
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    950 000 $950 000 $
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    11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
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    UFA - 2
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    10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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    2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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    UFA - 4
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    11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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    UFA - 3
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    6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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    827 500 $827 500 $
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    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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    840 630 $840 630 $
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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    762 500 $762 500 $
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    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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    900 000 $900 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    750 000 $750 000 $
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    800 000 $800 000 $
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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    4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
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    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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    1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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    7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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    UFA - 8
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    750 000 $750 000 $
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    850 000 $850 000 $
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    750 000 $750 000 $
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    5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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    796 667 $796 667 $
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    25 janv. 2023 à 3 h 37
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    you're looking at a 2nd round pick most likely.
    25 janv. 2023 à 6 h 38
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    Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
    you're looking at a 2nd round pick most likely.


    And maybe C level prospect.
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    25 janv. 2023 à 6 h 53
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    Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
    you're looking at a 2nd round pick most likely.


    2nd + 4th + roster level player for Barbashev and Acciari?
    25 janv. 2023 à 7 h 10
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    I'm a Barbashev guy since like his Brother does now he lead our Junior team.
    That said he's not the right fit for Toronto anymore then Nick Foligno was

    You can go out and pay a 2nd round plus a prospect in the open market landing him pretty easy.
    But he's better off on a team like VGK,CGY or DET where his role as a secondary faceoff guy and shutdown checker would have the most impact.

    For TML from my POV i think Noel Accari Or Radek Faksa makes more sense.
    Faksa's a big heavy hitting shut down Power Center whose consistently top 5 in Faceoffs taken by 4th liners while being a consistent team leader in blocked shots.
    DAL doesnt need him they got Quality Centers pushed to wing because Faksa isnt the same player when you move him out of a Center Role.

    DAL moving his contract now can be active at the Trade Deadline acquiring the Middle 6 RW they'll need for a Playoff Run since Gurianov is on year 3 of his goal scoring decline they'll need to. Faksa gives TML the depth needed at Center for a real run forcing teams to respect all 4 Centers ability's and their size with JT 6'1, DK 6'2 , Faksa 6'3 , & AM 6'3 with 3/4 weight 215-220lbs they cant be pushed around.

    DAL might even pay you to take Faksa in the summer.
    This TDL though Top Centers available with 50% or around win rate are Horvat, Monahan, Domi , Accuri, and Bonino.
    The rest are injured past TDL or their teams suddenly are in Wildcard position after seeded teams took a pounding .
    So this TDL someone might actually pay a 2nd and a prospect for Faksa despite his contract, more if they can get a 3rd team to RS.
    Outside being about 750k-1m over paid he's an ideal player especially given he's far more likely to steal a puck then turn it over as he's far too territorial in Nuetral Ice for those types of mistakes.

    IMO if he was 1m cheaper with the same term i think TML would have already acquired him.
    Same issue MTL has had with trying to move David Savard despite him being a good player he's overpaid in a time where only 2 teams are in a position RS during a rebuild.
    Because i want any Canadian Team to Win a cup i'll say if you plugged this hole with Faksa it would help fortify your Defense and Transitional game which is where MTL despite being worse outplays you.
    I gotta say its a trend i see when i see Toronto games and Highlights but to be fair its a hard role to fill without overpaying a guy to play at that level.
    While Faksa's a Gamble more then the rest he's also easier to move as his 2 remaining years after this are shed.

    Accari to a lesser degree checks a lot of the same boxes with far better production accross the boards.
    That said Head to Head in the Playoffs Faksa has better Quality in his runs and production plus he's a better shot blocker.
    But both would fix what i percieve as TML's single biggest issue in their control of the Neutral Zone
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    25 janv. 2023 à 7 h 11
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    Looking at what TOR has to offer? Probably both the 2023 3rd rounders is a starting offer and might get it done....IMO I dont think Barbashev is what the leafs need. Its kind of a half hearted splash.
    25 janv. 2023 à 8 h 45
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    A 2nd plus probably
    25 janv. 2023 à 8 h 46
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    Quoting: LukaTAG
    2nd + 4th + roster level player for Barbashev and Acciari?


    Accari proably pulls a 3rd due to a lot of interest atm
    Barby probably gets a 2nd but Maybe maybe a 1st is someone is really dumb
    25 janv. 2023 à 8 h 57
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    Quoting: xercuses
    Accari proably pulls a 3rd due to a lot of interest atm
    Barby probably gets a 2nd but Maybe maybe a 1st is someone is really dumb


    That about checks out because you gotta think a 4th and Engvall is equivalent to at least a 3rd lol
    25 janv. 2023 à 9 h 32
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    Quoting: LukaTAG
    That about checks out because you gotta think a 4th and Engvall is equivalent to at least a 3rd lol


    That’s not how it works. You’re asking the Blue to take on salary that’s unwanted. That doesn’t magically hold value. It’s quite possible that the salary coming back can be seen as the cost of doing business and it’s accepted that it comes back at no additional cost. But you don’t just throw on a random contract that you don’t want anymore if said player comes in and it magically adds value to the equation.
    25 janv. 2023 à 9 h 51
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    Quoting: AC14
    That’s not how it works. You’re asking the Blue to take on salary that’s unwanted. That doesn’t magically hold value. It’s quite possible that the salary coming back can be seen as the cost of doing business and it’s accepted that it comes back at no additional cost. But you don’t just throw on a random contract that you don’t want anymore if said player comes in and it magically adds value to the equation.


    Lmao okay fine we'll keep Engvall and change the 4th to a 3rd. Works out better for us anyways
    25 janv. 2023 à 9 h 53
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    Quoting: LukaTAG
    Lmao okay fine we'll keep Engvall and change the 4th to a 3rd. Works out better for us anyways


    Wasn’t commenting on value of said proposition. Moreso, the practice of adding random players and trying to combine their value.

    Fwiw, I don’t think the blues move Acciari.
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    25 janv. 2023 à 11 h 18
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    Quoting: LukaTAG
    That about checks out because you gotta think a 4th and Engvall is equivalent to at least a 3rd lol


    no cause engvall is a ufa
    so he has no value going to stl
    25 janv. 2023 à 12 h 14
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    Quoting: xercuses
    no cause engvall is a ufa
    so he has no value going to stl


    UFA doesn't mean no value
    25 janv. 2023 à 12 h 15
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    Quoting: LukaTAG
    UFA doesn't mean no value


    I agree but if Stl sells engvall has really 0 value to them.
    Accari for engvall and a 3rd is probably what it’d be
    25 janv. 2023 à 12 h 57
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    Quoting: xercuses
    I agree but if Stl sells engvall has really 0 value to them.
    Accari for engvall and a 3rd is probably what it’d be


    Depends. They could re-flip for pick or re-sign him in the offseason (there's a better chance he signs there if he plays there). He's a quality bottom sixer.
    26 janv. 2023 à 14 h 49
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    Quoting: LukaTAG
    2nd + 4th + roster level player for Barbashev and Acciari?


    Sounds reasonable but looks like Army would like to keep Acciari though.
    27 janv. 2023 à 3 h 14
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    Quoting: aktobos71
    And maybe C level prospect.


    Possibly, but even then I think that’s a big ask. We’re talking about an over qualified 4th liner, and a under qualified 3rd liner. Last year was an outlier year with 26 goals. It’s not realistic for him to reach that ever again. Max he hits 20 goals a couple more times in his career. 2nd Round Pick or a B level prospect would make me content with the situation.
     
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