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Équipe: 2022-23 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2023
Publié: 23 janv. 2023
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I really think these are the types of moves Columbus should do.

I know Columbus fans say that Jenner is not available But he should be.

A big sell off and getting some very nice picks and prospects. They could get a centre as a UFA next year and if a few of their young guys start to take off, this team could be dangerous as of next year.

I understand the love for Jenner but they are better off doign something like this (in my opinion)
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CBJ
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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  1. Gavrikov, Vladislav (1 400 000 $ retained)
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  1. Minten, Fraser
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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2024 1st is top 10 protected
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  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
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  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
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23 janv. 2023 à 17 h 53
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"But I really, really want him" is not a compelling argument for why Columbus should trade Jenner. You have personally been told no fewer than three times. The same reasons you want him are the same reasons Columbus wants him, and he's already here and signed an undermarket extension to remain here. Sucky rebuilding teams need steady, talented veterans, too. Move on.

Your other three moves are good and would work for us.
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23 janv. 2023 à 17 h 56
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Edmonton is not trading 2 first round picks for gavrikov. I honestly doubt they would trade bourgault alone for gavrikov.
23 janv. 2023 à 17 h 57
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"But I really, really want him" is not a compelling argument for why Columbus should trade Jenner. You have personally been told no fewer than three times. The same reasons you want him are the same reasons Columbus wants him, and he's already here and signed an undermarket extension to remain here. Sucky rebuilding teams need steady, talented veterans, too. Move on.

Your other three moves are good and would work for us.


I have been told no fewer than 15 times :P.

Sure I want him. But I 100% think this move makes a ton of sense for Columbus as well.

I disagree with the Columbus fans and I will keep playing with idea until the deadline.

At least I am not paying scraps for him like most proposals. I am giving a genuinely strong offer for him.
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23 janv. 2023 à 17 h 57
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Boone isn't available.
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23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 2
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Boone isn't available.


He should be and not just because I want him.

We can have this circular argument all the way until the deadline if you so choose.
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23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 3
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He should be and not just because I want him.

We can have this circular argument all the way until the deadline if you so choose.


Boone signed a contract to be the captain in Columbus, not to give the Leafs a good depth player on a reasonable contract. I think you just can't get that into your head. The Leafs don't get every toy they want.
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23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 4
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Edmonton is not trading 2 first round picks for gavrikov. I honestly doubt they would trade bourgault alone for gavrikov.


I would love if Edmonton takes a swing at Chychryun. That would be fun.

They better do something. All their picks and prospects mean nothing if they don't support McDavid and crew with actual depth. Their bottom 2 lines are not good and their d corp is mediocre.

They should spend heavily at the deadline (the more pieces that are long term the better of course).
23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 6
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Boone signed a contract to be the captain in Columbus, not to give the Leafs a good depth player on a reasonable contract. I think you just can't get that into your head. The Leafs don't get every toy they want.


I suggested he should be available. The Leafs would be one possible target but not the only target. A team like Colorado would make perfect sense as well.

If any team is willing to pay what was offered here, Columbus should take it.
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23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 13
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I suggested he should be available. The Leafs would be one possible target but not the only target. A team like Colorado would make perfect sense as well.

If any team is willing to pay what was offered here, Columbus should take it.


What is frustrating here is you're willfully refusing to accept that he is more important to the team than a couple more late round lottery tickets. He is the core piece of the new culture that has been established in the locker room that has influenced players like Gaudreau to sign and is going to grow players like Johnson, Sillinger, Jiricek, Ceulemans, Marchenko, Chinakhov and Mateychuk into proper professionals. Trading him away for picks is so ****ING short sighted and absolutely idiotic that it would be the kind of move that should cost Jarmo his job because it would be a complete betrayal of the messages he has been talking about for years. Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand any of this because you don't care about the team and you don't research any of this stuff. You just look at the stat sheet, the cap hit and watch a few highlights to form your opinion. There's more to this **** than the surface evaluation you've done. BOONE IS NOT AVAILABLE.
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23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 18
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He should be and not just because I want him.

We can have this circular argument all the way until the deadline if you so choose.


Why are you so obsessed with Boone Jenner lol. Yeah hes an effective player but hes not worth selling off multiple 1sts for.
23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 52
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Which UFA Center do you think the Jackets could get that would be an upgrade over Jenner at anywhere near the same value?

If/when that happens, then maybe the Jackets will consider trading Jenner.
Until then, he is not available.
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23 janv. 2023 à 18 h 57
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Why are you so obsessed with Boone Jenner lol. Yeah hes an effective player but hes not worth selling off multiple 1sts for.


Must be an Oshawa kid. Boone was a fan favorite with the Gennies.

I like him too, but damn not at this mad price.
23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 28
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Boone isn't available.


Some people like to think Columbus is an AAAA farm team...
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23 janv. 2023 à 19 h 36
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What is frustrating here is you're willfully refusing to accept that he is more important to the team than a couple more late round lottery tickets. He is the core piece of the new culture that has been established in the locker room that has influenced players like Gaudreau to sign and is going to grow players like Johnson, Sillinger, Jiricek, Ceulemans, Marchenko, Chinakhov and Mateychuk into proper professionals. Trading him away for picks is so ****ING short sighted and absolutely idiotic that it would be the kind of move that should cost Jarmo his job because it would be a complete betrayal of the messages he has been talking about for years. Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand any of this because you don't care about the team and you don't research any of this stuff. You just look at the stat sheet, the cap hit and watch a few highlights to form your opinion. There's more to this **** than the surface evaluation you've done. BOONE IS NOT AVAILABLE.


I 100% understand and respect Boones value to the Jackets. I know what a good vet and leader like him brings to their organization and to the prospects they have.

In saying that, everyone has a price. If a team offered Bedard for Boone, Columbus would accept instantly. If a team offered a 7th for Boone, Columbus hangs up. So his value is something in between Bedard and a 7th.

I am suggesting that a package that I listed here would be the most a team would pay for him and that at this price the value is worth more than what Boone offers to Columbus. You disagree and that's fair.

I can see a team like Colorado, Toronto and Edmonton highly valuing Boone and offering a very nice package for him. But I can see why Columbus still turns it down.
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23 janv. 2023 à 20 h 55
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I 100% understand and respect Boones value to the Jackets. I know what a good vet and leader like him brings to their organization and to the prospects they have.

In saying that, everyone has a price. If a team offered Bedard for Boone, Columbus would accept instantly. If a team offered a 7th for Boone, Columbus hangs up. So his value is something in between Bedard and a 7th.

I am suggesting that a package that I listed here would be the most a team would pay for him and that at this price the value is worth more than what Boone offers to Columbus. You disagree and that's fair.

I can see a team like Colorado, Toronto and Edmonton highly valuing Boone and offering a very nice package for him. But I can see why Columbus still turns it down.


Until Bedard is on the table Columbus rejects every one of your Boone offers. Let's put it to rest at that.
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23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 14
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I have been told no fewer than 15 times :P.

Sure I want him. But I 100% think this move makes a ton of sense for Columbus as well.

I disagree with the Columbus fans and I will keep playing with idea until the deadline.

At least I am not paying scraps for him like most proposals. I am giving a genuinely strong offer for him.


I completely agree it's a fair and strong offer. It simply doesn't change the fact Columbus will not trade him. It would have to be a ridiculous offer(which this isn't) to get jarmo to even start thinking about it. Trust the cbj fans, he's not for sale.
Ps...a ridiculous offer would start with 2 firsts, knies, and...
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24 janv. 2023 à 0 h 13
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If Jenner is being traded to Toronto I want Knies in the return.
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24 janv. 2023 à 16 h 55
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Until Bedard is on the table Columbus rejects every one of your Boone offers. Let's put it to rest at that.

Reiterating this so @TMLBRIAN that much more likely to see it. Cut it the hell out already. You don't get to have him.
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24 janv. 2023 à 23 h 6
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@TMLBRIAN I didnt know Jarmo had so many accounts on this website letting you know Boone Jenner isnt available.

TMLBRIAN is correct in the situation though. Boone Jenner is 100% available at the right price. What that price is I dont know, its obviously more than you would get for a normal middle 6 Centerman. But you'd be doing your team a disservice if you didnt listen to offers on your players to improve your team.
25 janv. 2023 à 3 h 2
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TMLBRIAN I didnt know Jarmo had so many accounts on this website letting you know Boone Jenner isnt available.

TMLBRIAN is correct in the situation though. Boone Jenner is 100% available at the right price. What that price is I dont know, its obviously more than you would get for a normal middle 6 Centerman. But you'd be doing your team a disservice if you didnt listen to offers on your players to improve your team.


It's hilarious how transparent you all are with these games. Trading Jenner for magic beans and burned out prospects doesn't improve the Jackets. Get a grip.
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25 janv. 2023 à 8 h 29
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It's hilarious how transparent you all are with these games. Trading Jenner for magic beans and burned out prospects doesn't improve the Jackets. Get a grip.


No idea what you’re talking about with magic beans and prospect. I didn’t suggest a single player or prospect, I’m just telling you, and it’s a fact, so sorry if it upsets you that Jarmo is going to listen to offers on every single player, whether you like it or not. I know that Joe Fan with his jersey hanging up on the wall doesn’t want his favourite player to get traded, but again, if Jarmo feels like it’s going to improve the club today and in the long run, he’s going to make the move.

You need to listen to offers. There isn’t a single GM who isn’t going to at least listen to an offer. McDavid is the best player in the league and Ken Holland is still going to at the very least listen to an offer.

I’ll leave it there for this conversation. Have a goodie
25 janv. 2023 à 8 h 57
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No idea what you’re talking about with magic beans and prospect. I didn’t suggest a single player or prospect, I’m just telling you, and it’s a fact

Your opinion is not a fact. Your desire is not a fact. Your "but I really really want it to be so" is not a fact. We've even had insider confirmation that Boone has no intention whatsoever of leaving, and it would be the height of stupidity to move him for anything that isn't overwhelmingly earthshakingly huge for this team. There has yet to be such an offer made and there likely never will be (the suggestion I generally make to Leafs fans is "start with a double-retained Tavares and add").

We have one of the most active GMs in the League; we know how this stuff goes. When we say Boone isn't available, it's not because we fans really really want to keep him. It's because we know our team, our GM, our players, and our organization. So quit trying to fansplain us into going for these sorts of crappy Random Grab Bag packages. He's not available for anything you're ever going to offer.
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25 janv. 2023 à 9 h 39
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Your opinion is not a fact. Your desire is not a fact. Your "but I really really want it to be so" is not a fact. We've even had insider confirmation that Boone has no intention whatsoever of leaving, and it would be the height of stupidity to move him for anything that isn't overwhelmingly earthshakingly huge for this team. There has yet to be such an offer made and there likely never will be (the suggestion I generally make to Leafs fans is "start with a double-retained Tavares and add").

We have one of the most active GMs in the League; we know how this stuff goes. When we say Boone isn't available, it's not because we fans really really want to keep him. It's because we know our team, our GM, our players, and our organization. So quit trying to fansplain us into going for these sorts of crappy Random Grab Bag packages. He's not available for anything you're ever going to offer.


See we agree, Jenner could be moved.

To be clear, I’m not saying at all the offer comes from Toronto. I’m simply saying (and yes it is a fact) Jarmo will listen to offers on Jenner. If the right deal comes along, it will be made. And Jenner can tell Jarmo his 8 teams he doesn’t want to go to at that point
25 janv. 2023 à 12 h 53
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See we agree, Jenner could be moved.

To be clear, I’m not saying at all the offer comes from Toronto. I’m simply saying (and yes it is a fact) Jarmo will listen to offers on Jenner. If the right deal comes along, it will be made. And Jenner can tell Jarmo his 8 teams he doesn’t want to go to at that point

Are you offering us Bedard?

No?

Then don't bother asking.
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25 janv. 2023 à 13 h 20
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Are you offering us Bedard?

No?

Then don't bother asking.


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