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Créé par: NMAvsFan
Équipe: 2023-24 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 22 janv. 2023
Publié: 22 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
IMO, this is the only scenario in which the Avs trade for Horvat at the TDL and I'm still not sure it works or if it's a great idea - losing Girard leaves a hole at D that will be tough to fill in terms of how the Avs like to play; Behrens is not ready to step into the NHL next season. Also, for the purposes of this AGM, let's assume this is a package VAN will accept and nobody else matches.

Horvat comes with an extension that kicks in this season so now we see what the roster and cap situation looks like. He takes a little less than what he was offered in VAN because he's paying less in taxes and playing for a winner.

Some things to keep in mind: Rantanen and Byram will need more money soon so the cap needs to go up by about $10M over the next few years for them to be able to keep the core together; can't really see that happening but, you never know. They're also likely to lose Toews in FA after next season so, another significant hole on the blueline.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
77 500 000 $
11 250 000 $
11 250 000 $
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    Avs get Horvat at 2023 TDL with an extension in place
    VAN
    1. Beaucage, Alex
    2. Girard, Samuel
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
    4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
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    2183 500 000 $83 123 333 $637 500 $57 500 $376 667 $
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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    UFA - 4
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    12 600 000 $12 600 000 $
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    9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
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    UFA - 2
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    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AG, C
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    C
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    UFA - 7
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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    847 500 $847 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
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    RFA - 2
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    RFA - 3
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    UFA - 1
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    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
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    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    762 500 $762 500 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    UFA - 1

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    22 janv. 2023 à 14 h 3
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    The only piece you have that the Canucks would want is Newhook
    22 janv. 2023 à 14 h 10
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    Zero chance you're getting an extended Horvat for that offer, An extended Horvat starts with one of Byram or Newhook not that offer. And good luck getting Horvat to sign for anything less than $8,000,000 to $8,500,000 per. No way he's taking $7,500,000 per when there are offers for him that are way more than this at free agency.
    22 janv. 2023 à 14 h 19
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    pretty big overpay, whether you extend him or not does not affect his trade value
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    22 janv. 2023 à 14 h 30
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    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    Zero chance you're getting an extended Horvat for that offer, An extended Horvat starts with one of Byram or Newhook not that offer. And good luck getting Horvat to sign for anything less than $8,000,000 to $8,500,000 per. No way he's taking $7,500,000 per when there are offers for him that are way more than this at free agency.


    WTF are you talking about? Colorado is the team that negotiates the extension, not Vancouver. There is absolutely zero incentive for Colorado to pay premium for him to come pre-signed
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    22 janv. 2023 à 14 h 39
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    pretty big overpay, whether you extend him or not does not affect his trade value


    Lol what? An extended Horvat has more value than a rental Horvat.

    Idk about the people on this site sometimes lol
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    22 janv. 2023 à 14 h 46
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    Quoting: TheAlien
    The only piece you have that the Canucks would want is Newhook


    Which is why it doesn't work for the Avs to trade for him and the reason I posted this - it makes no sense for the Avs to make a trade for Horvat that doesn't allow for him to be re-signed.
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    22 janv. 2023 à 16 h 1
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    Lol what? An extended Horvat has more value than a rental Horvat.

    Idk about the people on this site sometimes lol


    Ok and who's signing him to the extension?
    22 janv. 2023 à 16 h 7
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Ok and who's signing him to the extension?


    My OP says that he comes with an extension but these things are often negotiated by the team taking the player but it could be a sign-and-trade. I would think the Avs would have to be sure they could afford the extension before making the trade. In any event, I still don't think it works.
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    22 janv. 2023 à 16 h 22
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    Quoting: NMAvsFan
    My OP says that he comes with an extension but these things are often negotiated by the team taking the player but it could be a sign-and-trade. I would think the Avs would have to be sure they could afford the extension before making the trade. In any event, I still don't think it works.


    There has only ever been 1 sign-and-trade in NHL history and it was Tkachuk this summer. That was because Calgary was the only team in the league that could sign him to an 8 year extension at the time of the trade. That is not the case with Horvat, any team that acquires him before the TDL can sign him to an 8 year deal at any point up until he officially becomes a UFA in the summer.
    23 janv. 2023 à 10 h 32
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    There has only ever been 1 sign-and-trade in NHL history and it was Tkachuk this summer. That was because Calgary was the only team in the league that could sign him to an 8 year extension at the time of the trade. That is not the case with Horvat, any team that acquires him before the TDL can sign him to an 8 year deal at any point up until he officially becomes a UFA in the summer.


    Didn't Kessel get one?
    23 janv. 2023 à 10 h 44
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    Quoting: earl08
    Didn't Kessel get one?


    No Toronto signed his 2nd deal
     
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