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How Timo looks next year

Créé par: NeedTheCleanser
Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 22 janv. 2023
Publié: 22 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
There’s still 10M remaining after Cozens and Meier deals!!!
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 500 000 $
79 500 000 $
2950 000 $
32 500 000 $
1950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Meier, Timo [Droits de RFA]
SJS
  1. Olofsson, Victor (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Done at 23 TDL
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $72 171 070 $0 $3 145 000 $11 328 930 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
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UFA - 3
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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918 333 $918 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 7
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 1
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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950 000 $950 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1

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22 janv. 2023 à 8 h 50
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I feel that offer gets beaten pretty easily at this point.
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22 janv. 2023 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
I feel that offer gets beaten pretty easily at this point.


No it won’t. The 10M QO is going to terrify teams.
Comparable trade last season in Fiala and Debrincat.
Middle of the 1st and an established goal scorer that can be flipped for an early 2nd or a B+ Prospect.
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22 janv. 2023 à 9 h 2
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
No it won’t. The 10M QO is going to terrify teams.
Comparable trade last season in Fiala and Debrincat.
Middle of the 1st and an established goal scorer that can be flipped for an early 2nd or a B+ Prospect.


It will get beaten very easily. Debrincat got 7th over all meier would be less because teams we'd be trading with won't have a pick that valuable. Grier is also letting teams negotiate extensions before making trades so the QO is a non-factor now. The sharks are going to want futures or we would just keep timo if we only got a return like this
22 janv. 2023 à 9 h 7
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Quoting: sharcuda22
It will get beaten very easily. Debrincat got 7th over all meier would be less because teams we'd be trading with won't have a pick that valuable. Grier is also letting teams negotiate extensions before making trades so the QO is a non-factor now. The sharks are going to want futures or we would just keep timo if we only got a return like this


Debrincat was also, you know, under contract. It also blew up in Ottawas face

I wouldn't trade for meier, or sign him long term (if I am buffalo), but his trade value is much more in the fiala/Reinhart compensation.

The fact that he needs a new contract limits his list of destinations too
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22 janv. 2023 à 9 h 10
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It will get beaten very easily. Debrincat got 7th over all meier would be less because teams we'd be trading with won't have a pick that valuable. Grier is also letting teams negotiate extensions before making trades so the QO is a non-factor now. The sharks are going to want futures or we would just keep timo if we only got a return like this


Boy oh boy are you in for a rude awakening when this trade happens.

The QO doesn’t become a non issue if you let teams negotiate…. Bc the QO gives Meier leverage in those talks, which leads to a bigger AAV, which leads to less value going back in the trade.

These 1yr from UFA bridge deals just make player value plummet.
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22 janv. 2023 à 9 h 12
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Debrincat was also, you know, under contract. It also blew up in Ottawas face

I wouldn't trade for meier, or sign him long term (if I am buffalo), but his trade value is much more in the fiala/Reinhart compensation.

The fact that he needs a new contract limits his list of destinations too


Still the common areas of offers that are being thrown around in the "hockey insiders" media releases are a 2023 first a good/great prospect + a third asset depending on the prospect with good fits being the following teams:
Buffalo
Carolina
Detroit
New Jersey
Toronto
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22 janv. 2023 à 9 h 13
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Doubt that gets it done for Timo, don't think they would want Olofsson, probably someone younger. And some of those signings. Would love to sign Cozens long term but I don't think he gets that. Think Timo should be there 8.5 to 9, and why are you giving 3m to Okposo
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22 janv. 2023 à 9 h 13
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
Boy oh boy are you in for a rude awakening when this trade happens.

The QO doesn’t become a non issue if you let teams negotiate…. Bc the QO gives Meier leverage in those talks, which leads to a bigger AAV, which leads to less value going back in the trade.

These 1yr from UFA bridge deals just make player value plummet.


I hope we dont trade him, but Im just going of what frank and la brun are saying about potential offers....
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22 janv. 2023 à 10 h 2
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SJ is going to extend Meier unless he doesn't want to be in SJ. Keeping him is much better than this offer. Needs a decent prospect attached.
22 janv. 2023 à 10 h 18
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Buffalo's 1st Top 10 protection Ostlund Mitts for Timo and a mid rnd pick
22 janv. 2023 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
The QO doesn’t become a non issue if you let teams negotiate…. Bc the QO gives Meier leverage in those talks, which leads to a bigger AAV, which leads to less value going back in the trade.

These 1yr from UFA bridge deals just make player value plummet.


The QO isn't really a point of leverage against a team who has yet to acquire him. For the sake of the argument, let's say it is, you're making the assumption that Meier doesn't come to an agreement with any of the teams but still gets traded.

Whether or not Meier gets more than this is yet to be seen but it would be baffling if Grier trades for Olofsson who is a year away from ufa instead of the futures you said he's worth. They wouldn't have any leverage in an Olofsson trade and his value should also plummet like in Meier's case. So if they accept a deal with Olofsson, he should only be a sweetener.
22 janv. 2023 à 11 h 18
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I love Timo, but I don't think Buff can do it, because we have to pay Dahlin and Power in 1 year. Dahlin is getting at least 9-9.5 right off the bat.
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22 janv. 2023 à 12 h 2
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Not enough of a trade return for SJ and no the QO doesn’t matter because they’ll negotiate an extension beforehand . Gonna be an A- prospect and a 1st at least
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22 janv. 2023 à 18 h 52
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I love Timo, but I don't think Buff can do it, because we have to pay Dahlin and Power in 1 year. Dahlin is getting at least 9-9.5 right off the bat.


Dahlin is due only 3-3,5 raise. This will be covered by Okposo cap hit reduced from 6 mil to vet min.
Power should take bridge deal, similar to Dahlin (3x6) and wait for cap raise before taking 8yrs deal. Then Skinner`s deal is gone.

Sabres do have cap space for another 7-9 mil AAV player.
22 janv. 2023 à 19 h 39
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Not enough of a trade return for SJ and no the QO doesn’t matter because they’ll negotiate an extension beforehand . Gonna be an A- prospect and a 1st at least


No it won’t. That’s more than the Debrincat dral
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22 janv. 2023 à 20 h 43
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No it won’t. That’s more than the Debrincat dral


The Hawks got a high 1st and high 2nd. The high 1st is enough of a quality piece to do the heavy lifting
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23 janv. 2023 à 0 h 41
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Timo will look like not a guy wearing a Sabres uniform with that offer
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23 janv. 2023 à 3 h 44
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It will get beaten very easily. Debrincat got 7th over all meier would be less because teams we'd be trading with won't have a pick that valuable. Grier is also letting teams negotiate extensions before making trades so the QO is a non-factor now. The sharks are going to want futures or we would just keep timo if we only got a return like this


How exactly is the QO a "non-factor"?

It's definitely a factor. Meier and his agent will DEFINITELY be using it in any contract negotiations.
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23 janv. 2023 à 8 h 51
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How exactly is the QO a "non-factor"?

It's definitely a factor. Meier and his agent will DEFINITELY be using it in any contract negotiations.


I mean they will be using it but he according to serivalli will likely be between 8-9 mil on the cap hit, I meant more so the 10 mil qualifying offer won't scare teams away from trading because it won't be unknown whether they can afford to sign him or not.
23 janv. 2023 à 12 h 27
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I mean they will be using it


= factor.
23 janv. 2023 à 12 h 34
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I like the framework and fit for both teams.
23 janv. 2023 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
No it won’t. The 10M QO is going to terrify teams.
Comparable trade last season in Fiala and Debrincat.
Middle of the 1st and an established goal scorer that can be flipped for an early 2nd or a B+ Prospect.


The Devils alone offering a 1st and Holtz beats that.... The Devils wouldn't be as terrified as those other teams as they have room for a $8-9m guy, and they have Swiss players Timo knows. He was on a line with Nico Hischier.
23 janv. 2023 à 15 h 11
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= factor.


damn u just be reading what you want lmao
23 janv. 2023 à 17 h 55
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damn u just be reading what you want lmao


Umm, I guess just using the English language.
 
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