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Another Dubois Trade

Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 21 janv. 2023
Publié: 21 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
In this post I am proposing the Habs pay a premium return on PLD. Let me clarify my position:

1) I do not believe PLD is going to give up millions of dollars by refusing to consider UFA offers in 2024 by any team but the Canadiens. That would be really foolish and put him personally in a big position of weakness. Look at Gaudreau as an example of this not happening the way the home team expected it to

2) PLD just took a 1 year "bet on himself" contract. There is a huge risk for premium players when they do that. They can have a poor run. They can get injured. They can put themselves in a very bad position so it's typically high risk, high reward. He just did it 1 year and "won his bet", I doubt very much he does it again.

3) If he hits UFA and plays as well as he's played this year, he's going to command 10M in an offseason where the cap is going up significantly. This is the last chance for any team to sign him around 8 - 9M.

He's a great player. He's been surprisingly healthy and consistent while playing a physical game. He's a hometown boy and he wants to play here. Get it done Kent!
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 250 000 $
32 000 000 $
68 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Dvorsky, Dalibor
3975 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
2.
MTL
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Wideman, Chris
Détails additionnels:
Traded for fair value wherever they can find it and whatever that is
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2583 500 000 $74 784 166 $1 170 000 $4 440 000 $8 715 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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835 000 $835 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Dvorsky, Dalibor
975 000 $975 000 $
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885 000 $885 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 3

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21 janv. 2023 à 8 h 51
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Depending on where that Florida pick lands I don’t hate it. I think Dvo could be a solid addition. Ideally I’d like a different prospect than kidney. I could see jets maybe acquiring horvat this year so perhaps losing Dubois won’t hurt as bad.
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Depending on where that Florida pick lands I don’t hate it. I think Dvo could be a solid addition. Ideally I’d like a different prospect than kidney. I could see jets maybe acquiring horvat this year so perhaps losing Dubois won’t hurt as bad.


I have specific Jet fan in mind ahahah
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21 janv. 2023 à 9 h 1
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Depending on where that Florida pick lands I don’t hate it. I think Dvo could be a solid addition. Ideally I’d like a different prospect than kidney. I could see jets maybe acquiring horvat this year so perhaps losing Dubois won’t hurt as bad.


I'm assuming 10-12 based on SOS.
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21 janv. 2023 à 9 h 51
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Pretty decent offer. Not a huge fan of Kidney though. Roy is of interest, or take out the 2nd and Kidney and add Dach or Barron?
Dach(Barron) /FLA 1st/DV for salary purposes?
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Pretty decent offer. Not a huge fan of Kidney though. Roy is of interest, or take out the 2nd and Kidney and add Dach or Barron?
Dach(Barron) /FLA 1st/DV for salary purposes?


I think Dach & Barron are "Hughes guys". Trading either of them away is kind of an implicit admission that you made a mistake and it's too soon for that. I'm not arguing value here, just the situation.
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Pretty decent offer. Not a huge fan of Kidney though. Roy is of interest, or take out the 2nd and Kidney and add Dach or Barron?
Dach(Barron) /FLA 1st/DV for salary purposes?


Also adding... Kidney has 13 points in 5 games since being traded from a bad team to a good team in the Q. He has some things to work on like skating, but the hockey sense is NHL-level and in an offensive role.
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I have specific Jet fan in mind ahahah


I figured….
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I'm assuming 10-12 based on SOS.


Yeah I mean, depends on if jets have someone in that range that they are very high on. Also depends on if they’ve added someone like horvat.
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21 janv. 2023 à 14 h 36
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You're not paying a premium, you're paying the bare minimum rental price. Unlikely the Jets accept that at the draft as Dvorak and Kidney have little to no value to Winnipeg.

The Jets would just move him for pieces they want.
 
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