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SIMONSELAARS3 Idea

Créé par: MNBassman
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2023
Publié: 20 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I liked SIMONSELAARS3 idea so much I decided to play around with it…
Dumba’s agent works out a 5 x $4mil extension in advance of this trade.
I think Hollaway and Ek can make a dynamic 3rd line who also contribute offensively.
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Greenway, Jordan
Détails additionnels:
I, for one, will miss Dumba! He is one of the most under-appreciated players I’ve ever known (and I’m old).
Greenway, however, good riddance! Let some other club work on his immense inconsistencies!
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
3.
MIN
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Goligoski, Alex
Détails additionnels:
Goligoski needs some playing time. Chicago can be any team.
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $72 581 921 $0 $1 182 500 $9 918 079 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
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825 000 $825 000 $
C, AG
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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787 500 $787 500 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
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UFA - 1

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20 janv. 2023 à 9 h 33
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Oilers say no, Holloway is staying for sure, Dumba is a potential rental. Expect a trade for 2 - 2nds and a prospect for some retention for Dumba.
20 janv. 2023 à 10 h 23
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Oilers say no, Holloway is staying for sure, Dumba is a potential rental. Expect a trade for 2 - 2nds and a prospect for some retention for Dumba.


I don’t think you’re far off on 2 2nds. But what Holloway been up to in EDM this year? Has he been getting games and looking alright?
20 janv. 2023 à 10 h 24
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I like this one Bassman. Not sure it’s likely but I like all the buttons it hits.
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20 janv. 2023 à 10 h 29
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I like this one Bassman. Not sure it’s likely but I like all the buttons it hits.


I knew you’d come around. 😉😂
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20 janv. 2023 à 10 h 43
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Interesting idea as a base. Puljujarvi for Greenway seems like a really even swap and they could both probably use a change in scenery. Oilers would essentially be trading Holloway for Dumba and I'd imagine that won't sit well with most Oilers fans. Think this would take a sweetener if Holloway is the target
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20 janv. 2023 à 10 h 45
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Interesting idea as a base. Puljujarvi for Greenway seems like a really even swap and they could both probably use a change in scenery. Oilers would essentially be trading Holloway for Dumba and I'd imagine that won't sit well with most Oilers fans. Think this would take a sweetener if Holloway is the target


Whispers “Broberg should be the target.”
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Interesting idea as a base. Puljujarvi for Greenway seems like a really even swap and they could both probably use a change in scenery. Oilers would essentially be trading Holloway for Dumba and I'd imagine that won't sit well with most Oilers fans. Think this would take a sweetener if Holloway is the target


I agree. How big of a sweetener?
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20 janv. 2023 à 10 h 56
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I agree. How big of a sweetener?


I hope it wouldn't be more than a 3rd. The thing with Holloway is outside of 1 year with Wisconsin he hasn't ever really been an offensive dynamo but seems like he gets evaluated as one, at least by fans. I think he'll be a really good 3rd liner at his ceiling, sort of like Foligno was last season, but a lot of posts I see about him make it sound like he's a top 6 lock.
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20 janv. 2023 à 10 h 59
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I agree. How big of a sweetener?


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I don’t think you’re far off on 2 2nds. But what Holloway been up to in EDM this year? Has he been getting games and looking alright?


He has been proving that he is going to be a top 6 player, every game he has greatly improved, so has Broberg.

As for the sweetener for me, I would want to see retention for this year and a pick/some kind of sign and trade so we can have Dumba long term.

My humble opinion as an Oilers fan
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20 janv. 2023 à 11 h 5
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I hope it wouldn't be more than a 3rd. The thing with Holloway is outside of 1 year with Wisconsin he hasn't ever really been an offensive dynamo but seems like he gets evaluated as one, at least by fans. I think he'll be a really good 3rd liner at his ceiling, sort of like Foligno was last season, but a lot of posts I see about him make it sound like he's a top 6 lock.


I think his ceiling is middle 6. Like you said, a really good 3rd liner, but one who can play anywhere to create balance, putting the pieces in the best spots, etc. I just can’t stop thinking about the potential of a Hollaway/Ek/(maybe)Puljujarvi line!!
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I hope it wouldn't be more than a 3rd. The thing with Holloway is outside of 1 year with Wisconsin he hasn't ever really been an offensive dynamo but seems like he gets evaluated as one, at least by fans. I think he'll be a really good 3rd liner at his ceiling, sort of like Foligno was last season, but a lot of posts I see about him make it sound like he's a top 6 lock.


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He has been proving that he is going to be a top 6 player, every game he has greatly improved, so has Broberg.

As for the sweetener for me, I would want to see retention for this year and a pick/some kind of sign and trade so we can have Dumba long term.

My humble opinion as an Oilers fan


In this scenario, I have Dumba signed to a 5 year/$4m deal, which I believe is appropriate. Assess Dumba’s value with this being considered.
20 janv. 2023 à 11 h 18
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In this scenario, I have Dumba signed to a 5 year/$4m deal, which I believe is appropriate. Assess Dumba’s value with this being considered.


Quoting: MNBassman
In this scenario, I have Dumba signed to a 5 year/$4m deal, which I believe is appropriate. Assess Dumba’s value with this being considered.


I would say the below gets a deal done:

2023 2nd + Holloway + Poolparty = Dumba 3M retention this year + extension (4mx5) + Greenway

Greenway = Poolparty across
2023 2nd + Holloway = Dumba long term

I think the Oilers very strongly consider it.
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I think his ceiling is middle 6. Like you said, a really good 3rd liner, but one who can play anywhere to create balance, putting the pieces in the best spots, etc. I just can’t stop thinking about the potential of a Hollaway/Ek/(maybe)Puljujarvi line!!


Fun story, Wheeler at the Athletic dropped his assessment of the Oilers prospect pool today. In case you’re interested.
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I would say the below gets a deal done:

2023 2nd + Holloway + Poolparty = Dumba 3M retention this year + extension (4mx5) + Greenway

Greenway = Poolparty across
2023 2nd + Holloway = Dumba long term

I think the Oilers very strongly consider it.


I would be quite happy with that as a Wild fan. I’d bet Greener could fetch a bit more elsewhere though. Wild could still take Jesse if more cap needed to move.
20 janv. 2023 à 11 h 36
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I would say the below gets a deal done:

2023 2nd + Holloway + Poolparty = Dumba 3M retention this year + extension (4mx5) + Greenway

Greenway = Poolparty across
2023 2nd + Holloway = Dumba long term

I think the Oilers very strongly consider it.


You call your people and I’ll call mine…let’s get it done!
20 janv. 2023 à 11 h 38
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Fun story, Wheeler at the Athletic dropped his assessment of the Oilers prospect pool today. In case you’re interested.


One step ahead of you…which is why I (now) want Hollaway! I wasn’t overwhelmed with him at Wisconsin, but think he’s a perfect addition to a team with so many aging big guys and finesse little guys!
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One step ahead of you…which is why I (now) want Hollaway! I wasn’t overwhelmed with him at Wisconsin, but think he’s a perfect addition to a team with so many aging big guys and finesse little guys!


I think he’s precisely the kind of guy the oilers need. Talented enough to play top 6 but fills a play driving role on the 3rd line. As much as they need defense, I think they need that forward depth more.

I also don’t think Hollaway would jump into the Wild lineup. I like Broberg because he gives the team options now and over the long term without Dumba. I also think they’d be more inclined to move him than Hollaway.

IDK, I really like what EDM could potentially offer for Dumba as a 1st/Broberg/Hollaway. We shall see.
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I think he’s precisely the kind of guy the oilers need. Talented enough to play top 6 but fills a play driving role on the 3rd line. As much as they need defense, I think they need that forward depth more.

I also don’t think Hollaway would jump into the Wild lineup. I like Broberg because he gives the team options now and over the long term without Dumba. I also think they’d be more inclined to move him than Hollaway.

IDK, I really like what EDM could potentially offer for Dumba as a 1st/Broberg/Hollaway. We shall see.


I’m a big fan of most things not boring…and none of this is boring!! It’s my patience that needs some help…
20 janv. 2023 à 13 h 52
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I think he’s precisely the kind of guy the oilers need. Talented enough to play top 6 but fills a play driving role on the 3rd line. As much as they need defense, I think they need that forward depth more.

I also don’t think Hollaway would jump into the Wild lineup. I like Broberg because he gives the team options now and over the long term without Dumba. I also think they’d be more inclined to move him than Hollaway.

IDK, I really like what EDM could potentially offer for Dumba as a 1st/Broberg/Hollaway. We shall see.


I get what you are saying but Edmonton is impatient for another solid defender and I have had a ton of respect for how Dumba plays the game, I actually think he is a game changer for us. Holloway is a top prospect and it would be a tough pill to swallow but I think that if we got Dumba with retention and a 5 year deal at 4m, you have to drink some beer and suck it back.
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20 janv. 2023 à 13 h 58
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I get what you are saying but Edmonton is impatient for another solid defender and I have had a ton of respect for how Dumba plays the game, I actually think he is a game changer for us. Holloway is a top prospect and it would be a tough pill to swallow but I think that if we got Dumba with retention and a 5 year deal at 4m, you have to drink some beer and suck it back.


I agree with you about Dumba’s fit with the Oilers. He would only make their rush offense more potent. They still need to get some scoring depth but the glove fits.
21 janv. 2023 à 0 h 5
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Quoting: jnowariak
I don’t think you’re far off on 2 2nds. But what Holloway been up to in EDM this year? Has he been getting games and looking alright?


Yeah he has played the whole year so far and is a fast impact player that throws lot of hits
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