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Massive 23-24

Créé par: ht42
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2023
Publié: 19 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 125 000 $
87 875 000 $
31 350 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
55 000 000 $
23 750 000 $
56 500 000 $
1875 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
Détails additionnels:
Donskoi
SEA
  1. Edmundson, Joel
Détails additionnels:
TDL
2.
ARI
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
If Quick decide to retire
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de WPG
Logo de PIT
Logo de VGK
Logo de LAK
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2024
Logo de MTL
Logo de LAK
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
2025
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $84 144 999 $1 170 000 $3 920 000 $-644 999 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
875 000 $875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 11
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The only way LA would trade for Allen is if Montreal was taking Petersen back. The Kings aren't going to pay significant assets to dump Petersen either, so I don't see Montreal wanting to do that.
19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 12
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Unless that pick is top 3, that doesn’t get chychrun.
19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 18
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Unless that pick is top 3, that doesn’t get chychrun.


The pick will be like at 7th, maybe 8th.

Considering that they ask in a total of two 1st round pick and the next upcoming draft is considering of one of the best in the past 15-20 years, a 1st round pick in the top 10 can have the same value as two 1st round pick. Also, I don't see a team like Chicago, Anaheim, Columbus, San Jose or Vancouver making a trade for Chychrun.
19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 21
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The pick will be like at 7th, maybe 8th.

Considering that they ask in a total of two 1st round pick and the next upcoming draft is considering of one of the best in the past 15-20 years, a 1st round pick in the top 10 can have the same value as two 1st round pick. Also, I don't see a team like Chicago, Anaheim, Columbus, San Jose or Vancouver making a trade for Chychrun.


Ya, that’s not getting chychrun.
19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 23
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The pick will be like at 7th, maybe 8th.

Considering that they ask in a total of two 1st round pick and the next upcoming draft is considering of one of the best in the past 15-20 years, a 1st round pick in the top 10 can have the same value as two 1st round pick. Also, I don't see a team like Chicago, Anaheim, Columbus, San Jose or Vancouver making a trade for Chychrun.


The ask is two 1sts and a quality prospect or good young NHL player. So even if you stipulate a 7-10 pick is worth two 1sts (it's not), you're still a quality prospect light.
19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 24
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Ya, that’s not getting chychrun.


Chychrun isn't getting a top 10 pick in this year's draft. Let alone all the other pieces in this trade.
19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 26
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Chychrun isn't getting a top 10 pick in this year's draft. Let alone all the other pieces in this trade.


Yes, but not because of value, but because teams drafting in the top ten shouldn’t be adding chychrun. The reason he is so valuable is his contract, which would be wasted on a team drafting that high.
19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 35
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That is a better package for Dubois than Dvorak and a 2nd... but still doesn't cut it. Need a young NHLer, not just Barron.
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19 janv. 2023 à 16 h 37
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The first in 23 is a good start, but Barron and the remainder need to be replaced by players/prospects Winnipeg needs.
19 janv. 2023 à 17 h 36
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Yes, but not because of value, but because teams drafting in the top ten shouldn’t be adding chychrun. The reason he is so valuable is his contract, which would be wasted on a team drafting that high.


No, it's literally his value. This draft is deep that there's potentially a ppg player going to be picked as late as 10th overall. I'm taking that over Chychrun.

You are right that teams drafting this high wouldn't do it because of where the team is rebuilding wise but in the end there's multiple players in this draft that will be better than Chychrun. Hell Axel Sandin Pelikka might be the first dman drafted and he is projected to go anywhere from 8-14 and he may end up being better than JC.
19 janv. 2023 à 17 h 59
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No, it's literally his value. This draft is deep that there's potentially a ppg player going to be picked as late as 10th overall. I'm taking that over Chychrun.

You are right that teams drafting this high wouldn't do it because of where the team is rebuilding wise but in the end there's multiple players in this draft that will be better than Chychrun. Hell Axel Sandin Pelikka might be the first dman drafted and he is projected to go anywhere from 8-14 and he may end up being better than JC.


I feel like you’re not using literally correctly. You don’t know his value. No one does.
19 janv. 2023 à 18 h 47
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Quoting: njlaforte
That is a better package for Dubois than Dvorak and a 2nd... but still doesn't cut it. Need a young NHLer, not just Barron.


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The first in 23 is a good start, but Barron and the remainder need to be replaced by players/prospects Winnipeg needs.


I think that’s a good package. Barron is a young RHD with term, who looks like he might be a decent T4. If that FLA pick is in the 8-12 range, although depending on who is there at that pick, I’d be ok with, say Dach instead and adjusting the additional picks accordingly, maybe drop the 2nd or 3rd. Someone inevitably drops in the draft and we would/should snag a steal with that pick. Lots of potential in that range and would help us recover some picks if we sell our 1st this year at the deadline for a run and know PLD won’t re-up. Add in the 25’ 1st and that’s a good offer.
19 janv. 2023 à 19 h 0
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I think that’s a good package. If that FLA pick is in the 8-12 range, although depending on who is there at that pick, I’d be ok with, say Dach instead and adjusting the additional picks accordingly, maybe drop the 2nd or 3rd. Someone inevitably drops in the draft and we would/should snag a steal with that pick. Lots of potential in that range and would help us recover some picks if we sell our 1st this year at the deadline for a run and know PLD won’t re-up


Yeah, the biggest factor would be where the 23 pick is. As you say, if there is someone at that pick the Jets really want, it's a big difference. I just think it extremely unlikely the Jets would accept so many picks in the package while also having to wait 2 drafts for one pick and 3 for another.

I think the Jets would just opt to move him somewhere for a similar first and better/closer to helping the team prospects. I can't see it being hard to find a similar package with more ready parts elsewhere.
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19 janv. 2023 à 19 h 29
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Yeah, the biggest factor would be where the 23 pick is. As you say, if there is someone at that pick the Jets really want, it's a big difference. I just think it extremely unlikely the Jets would accept so many picks in the package while also having to wait 2 drafts for one pick and 3 for another.

I think the Jets would just opt to move him somewhere for a similar first and better/closer to helping the team prospects. I can't see it being hard to find a similar package with more ready parts elsewhere.


Honestly, if a Yager or Dvorasky drop and are available at that spot, I’d be Ok with Barron. Swap in Dach, drop a secondary pick and swing for Reinbacher. He looked phenomenal at the Juniors. I think a lot hinge on the TDL and the playoff run we have. If we do well, the team gels we and go on a deep run and PLD gets a taste of it, I think he may resign, at least a short deal, knowing he would be quite a few years away from those with Montreal.
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