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Horvat rumors

Créé par: Boldirev
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2023
Publié: 19 janv. 2023
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Description
Despite the protestations of Bruins and Cane fans, both teams have been linked to Bo Horvat. Reportedly, the Bruins are very focused on acquiring Bo.
While this is not the usual M.O. for the Canes, maybe just maybe they would rather they have Bo than Boston.
Seattle is also in the mix, but I imagine the Canucks are only going this route if they have to.
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (BOS)
  3. Choix de 2023 ronde en 3e (BOS)
  4. Choix de 2024 ronde en 3e (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
One stop shopping.
BOS
  1. Horvat, Bo
  2. Schenn, Luke
Détails additionnels:
Horvat likely extends.
2.
VAN
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Carolina has the prospects that better fit the Canucks needs. Some combination of these will work, if they so choose.
CAR
    Horvat
    3.
    VAN
    1. Borgen, William
    2. Nyman, Jani [Liste de réserve]
    3. Wennberg, Alexander
    4. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (SEA)
    5. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (SEA)
    6. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (TOR)
    Détails additionnels:
    Wennberg is purely for cap purposes.
    SEA
    1. Studnicka, Jack
    Détails additionnels:
    Horvat
    Schenn
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    2482 500 000 $82 504 167 $1 250 000 $850 000 $-4 167 $
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    Miller, J.T.
    5 250 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    Pettersson, Elias
    7 350 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    Boeser, Brock
    6 650 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
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    Mikheyev, Ilya
    4 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Joshua, Dakota
    825 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
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    Garland, Conor
    4 950 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
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    Kuzmenko, Andrei
    950 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    Dries, Sheldon
    762 500 $
    C
    UFA - 2
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    Lazar, Curtis
    1 000 000 $
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    UFA - 3
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    Pederson, Lane
    750 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Lockwood, William
    750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    Drury, Jack
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
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    Lysell, Fabian
    894 167 $
    AD
    RFA - 3
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    Wennberg, Alexander
    4 500 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Hughes, Quinn
    7 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 5
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    Myers, Tyler
    6 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Martin, Spencer
    762 500 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    7 260 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    Bear, Ethan
    1 800 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    Delia, Collin
    750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Kraken de Seattle
    Borgen, William
    900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    Dermott, Travis
    1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    Stillman, Riley
    1 350 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    Burroughs, Kyle
    750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Demko, Thatcher
    5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 4
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    Ferland, Micheal
    3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Pearson, Tanner
    3 250 000 $
    AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    Poolman, Tucker
    2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3

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    19 janv. à 10 h 49
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    Morrow is untouchable. He’s better than Makar. REEEEEEEEE!!!!
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    19 janv. à 10 h 51
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    Canes aren’t moving Morrow, but a different RHD, maybe. It would all depend on Horvat being willing to resign ata more realistic cap hit than what he is asking for.
    19 janv. à 10 h 55
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    Modifié 19 janv. à 11 h 5
    Sorry but those aren't the only teams he's linked to, Also Colorado and Detroit and both can easily beat those offers,

    Carolina has pretty much already bowed out of the Bo Horvat sweepstakes, And Allvin wants Necas as a piece.

    And what part of Boston not being able to afford Bo Horvat long term don't people understand? Pastrnak wants $12,000,000 and Horvat between $8,000,000 to $9,000,000 per plus Boston has to pay the $4,500,000 performance Bonus to both Bergeron and Krejci. Without moving out some expensive pieces it's not happening.
    19 janv. à 10 h 55
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    19 janv. à 10 h 56
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    Canes already said the price was too high
    19 janv. à 11 h 3
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    I would do that if the deal comes with an extension. I don't think we give up Lysell for a rental.
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    19 janv. à 11 h 4
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    If its Lysell, a 2023 first, and 2 3rds for Horvat and Schenn - I think the Bruins take it on the condition that Horvat agrees to a long-term deal at a cap hit that enables them to keep Pasta and some of their RFAs.

    Boston would have to send Craig Smith's expiring contract to Vancouver to make the cap work and it would mean they wouldn't be able to activate Debrusk until the playoffs.

    Probably makes more sense for Boston to wait and sign him as an UFA if he really wants to come to Boston though.
    19 janv. à 11 h 14
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    I’ve said this before, and I think it was to this poster - I challenge anyone to provide the poster and comment where a Canes fan has posted that Morrow is better than Makar. I can appreciate that the Morrow hype is too high, but misrepresenting in this fashion doesn’t help.

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    Morrow is untouchable. He’s better than Makar. REEEEEEEEE!!!!
    19 janv. à 11 h 16
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    protestations? The price is too high, and the Canes and Canucks see Horvat similarly. Great player having a great year, but not worth signing to a long term extension after a career year. If the price was commiserate with the long term outlook for Horvat, the Canes would make a move.
    19 janv. à 11 h 31
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    So the Bo likely extends in Boston….let’s look.

    62.8m committed to 12 players next year.

    4.5 in bonus overages carried over = 67.3

    Pasta/Bo 20m = 87.3 for 14

    Sway/Freddy 4m = 91.3m for 16

    Roughly 5m to fill remaining 7 slots = 96.3 cap hit

    96.3 is a big number.

    Who you going to move out. Reilly for sure. That saves 3m but you replace him on the roster so 2m.

    94.3. Who’s next. Ullmark? Grizz? Debrusk? Coyle? Going to have move out at least 2 maybe 3 while taking no cap back.

    Is it really likely they sign him to an extension?
    19 janv. à 11 h 38
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    Allvin asked for Necas, these rumors are dead. Cope with it. Even if they weren't, Carolina aren't moving Morrow. Maybe Drury, Heimosalmi, 1st makes more sense, but Morrow is a very non-starter.

    Edit: This would be if Horvat could agree an extension that came in at less than 7.5~. Canes cannot afford much more keeping this current core together.
    19 janv. à 11 h 54
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    Bruins fans don’t buy this rumor because the guy who writes about it everyday has no sources and has never been right
    19 janv. à 12 h 35
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    Rumors are that the canes are basically out on Horvat talks as Vancouver's price is more than they are willing to pay. Morrow and Necas are non-starters for Horvat. If they really are asking that, there's no way the deals getting done.
    19 janv. à 14 h 13
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    I would take that deal if he came with a 6 year team friendly extension.
    19 janv. à 16 h 42
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    Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
    Sorry but those aren't the only teams he's linked to, Also Colorado and Detroit and both can easily beat those offers,

    Carolina has pretty much already bowed out of the Bo Horvat sweepstakes, And Allvin wants Necas as a piece.

    And what part of Boston not being able to afford Bo Horvat long term don't people understand? Pastrnak wants $12,000,000 and Horvat between $8,000,000 to $9,000,000 per plus Boston has to pay the $4,500,000 performance Bonus to both Bergeron and Krejci. Without moving out some expensive pieces it's not happening.


    And yet the reports from multiple sources keep pouring in. Boston management must have a plan you are unaware of.....
    19 janv. à 16 h 47
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    Quoting: Boldirev
    And yet the reports from multiple sources keep pouring in. Boston management must have a plan you are unaware of.....


    An extended Horvat would cost both Carlo and Lysell. Not Lysell and late picks.
     
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