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Créé par: Bure10
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 18 janv. 2023
Publié: 18 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
NYI
  1. Horvat, Bo (2 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Kuzmenko, Andrei
  3. Schenn, Luke
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $79 373 334 $1 250 000 $620 000 $3 126 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
836 667 $836 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
870 000 $870 000 $
DG
RFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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18 janv. 2023 à 23 h 53
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the isles aren't good, they're not buying
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18 janv. 2023 à 23 h 57
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Isles aren't even making the playoffs, And no they're not giving up Raty and Wahlstrom for rentals in Horvat and Kuzmenko 2 players they financially can't afford.
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19 janv. 2023 à 0 h 2
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So the Isles give up: their best D prospect & their best forward prospect, plus arguably their best U23 forward on the NHL team, plus another NHL caliber D in Salo plus this year's 1st for a trio of rentals - do I have it right? Why would they help kickstart the Canucks rebuild at the expense of their already abysmal farm system? They're not currently in a playoff spot, and while they can still make a run, going "all in" when you're technically not "in" is an absolutely bonkers, and terrible, move to make.
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19 janv. 2023 à 0 h 5
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Canucks can probably get more value trading those pieces separately
19 janv. 2023 à 1 h 18
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Canucks can probably get more value trading those pieces separately


Are you high?
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19 janv. 2023 à 1 h 39
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Are you high?


Maybe not looking at it again, but it’s close imo. Could get more that fits their needs is probably a better way to put it

Kuzmenko gets a 1st and a small add. Horvat probably gets at least two 1sts of value, if not more. Schenn gets at least a 3rd, maybe a 2nd

Isles are giving up one 1st, one top prospect probably worth a 1st (Raty). Salo and Odelius don’t really do much for the Canucks since they have enough LHD already. Wahlstrom is solid but not really any better than Hoglander and Podkolzin who the Canucks aren’t even playing right now

Trying to break it down, I’d say 1st + Raty + Odelius for Horvat, Salo for Schenn, Wahlstrom for Kuzmenko. I’d do the Horvat part, but not the Schenn or Kuzmenko parts when it’s broken down like that (could be talked into the Schenn part though, don’t know too much about Salo, just no need for LHD)

Not saying the Isles do this trade either, just saying it doesn’t fit many of the Canucks needs (apart from the 1st and Raty)
19 janv. 2023 à 9 h 35
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Maybe not looking at it again, but it’s close imo. Could get more that fits their needs is probably a better way to put it

Kuzmenko gets a 1st and a small add. Horvat probably gets at least two 1sts of value, if not more. Schenn gets at least a 3rd, maybe a 2nd

Isles are giving up one 1st, one top prospect probably worth a 1st (Raty). Salo and Odelius don’t really do much for the Canucks since they have enough LHD already. Wahlstrom is solid but not really any better than Hoglander and Podkolzin who the Canucks aren’t even playing right now

Trying to break it down, I’d say 1st + Raty + Odelius for Horvat, Salo for Schenn, Wahlstrom for Kuzmenko. I’d do the Horvat part, but not the Schenn or Kuzmenko parts when it’s broken down like that (could be talked into the Schenn part though, don’t know too much about Salo, just no need for LHD)

Not saying the Isles do this trade either, just saying it doesn’t fit many of the Canucks needs (apart from the 1st and Raty)


So basically yes you are high. There is 0 chance horvat gets near that much. Salo is probably the wrong piece also seems like you don’t know much about odelius which makes sense I wouldn’t expect you to but you seem to be underrating him. And as much as wahlstrom production has struggled look at his advanced stats when he’s out there the isles create a lot of scoring chances. And yes he’s most certainly better than hoglander and better than podkolzin. There’s a reason he doesn’t play while wahlstrom does (injured rn but plays top line when healthy).
19 janv. 2023 à 10 h 15
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Maybe not looking at it again, but it’s close imo. Could get more that fits their needs is probably a better way to put it

Kuzmenko gets a 1st and a small add. Horvat probably gets at least two 1sts of value, if not more. Schenn gets at least a 3rd, maybe a 2nd

Isles are giving up one 1st, one top prospect probably worth a 1st (Raty). Salo and Odelius don’t really do much for the Canucks since they have enough LHD already. Wahlstrom is solid but not really any better than Hoglander and Podkolzin who the Canucks aren’t even playing right now

Trying to break it down, I’d say 1st + Raty + Odelius for Horvat, Salo for Schenn, Wahlstrom for Kuzmenko. I’d do the Horvat part, but not the Schenn or Kuzmenko parts when it’s broken down like that (could be talked into the Schenn part though, don’t know too much about Salo, just no need for LHD)

Not saying the Isles do this trade either, just saying it doesn’t fit many of the Canucks needs (apart from the 1st and Raty)


I doubt Kuzmenko brings back a 1st. He's a rental whose production is based mostly on a bunch of PPG and a ridiculously high shooting percentage (literally 2nd highest in the league). Granted there are some dumb GM's out there, but pretty much anyone can see he's a good candidate to regress over the 2nd half of the season.
 
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