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23-24 with Horvat

Créé par: Rooney
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2023
Publié: 18 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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3826 667 $
3833 333 $
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1.
WPG
    *2023 TDL deal

    -Bo Horvat (extended $8.5/8)
    VAN
    1. Gustafsson, David
    2. Heinola, Ville
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
    4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
    Détails additionnels:
    *2023 TDL deal
    2.
    WPG
    1. Kidney, Riley
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
    MTL
    1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
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    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 37
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    Modifié 18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 42
    Look, PLD makes it obvious he wants to come here. Nothing is guaranteed, but we will take our chances on him July 1st 2024
    The best we would do iS probably : Dvorak + Kidney + VGK 2023 4th
    I'm a 100% sure a team beats that, so sign him another year, than you trade him at the TDL or you use him as your own rental

    I might be wrong, he might be traded here so I was more giving my opinion and what I hope the team will do. But it's realistic what you did up there
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    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 44
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Look, PLD makes it obvious he wants to come here. Nothing is guaranteed, but we will take our chances on him July 1st 2024
    The best we would do iS probably : Dvorak + Kidney + VGK 2023 4th
    I'm a 100% sure a team beats that, so sign him another year, than you trade him at the TDL or you use him as your own rental


    I mean option 2 is the OS on July 1st 2023, if you go 6.3 mil x 1 year it kind of forces the Jets hand to either match knowing he won't resign so they have to go all in or let him walk for just a 2024 1st and 3rd. I am not saying I would do it but it is an option and then everyone would know where he stands with regards to Montreal.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 44
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Look, PLD makes it obvious he wants to come here. Nothing is guaranteed, but we will take our chances on him July 1st 2024
    The best we would do iS probably : Dvorak + Kidney + VGK 2023 4th
    I'm a 100% sure a team beats that, so sign him another year, than you trade him at the TDL or you use him as your own rental


    I don't disagree with you at all. If PLD isn't wanting to sign for at least a mid-term deal (3-4 years), I would move him to the highest bidder. BUT, with that being said, if WPG is in a good spot again next year come playoff time it'll be hard for the team to move him. It would also be hard keeping him as our own rental and getting nothing for him when he walks in Free Agency...decisions decisions lol.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 47
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    I don’t like the idea of adding a player having a career year looking to get paid a ton. But I do like replacing the 2C position after trading Dubois for that FLA 1st. I’d imagine that Dubois deal happens on draft day when the jets know what they’ll likely be getting with that pick.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 49
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    Quoting: Rooney
    I don't disagree with you at all. If PLD isn't wanting to sign for at least a mid-term deal (3-4 years), I would move him to the highest bidder. BUT, with that being said, if WPG is in a good spot again next year come playoff time it'll be hard for the team to move him. It would also be hard keeping him as our own rental and getting nothing for him when he walks in Free Agency...decisions decisions lol.


    I think it would be a massive mistake to allow him to walk for nothing, but if they’re in a similar position next year at this time I can’t see how they can trade him unless they’re getting a replacement C.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 53
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    Quoting: tsyls
    I don’t like the idea of adding a player having a career year looking to get paid a ton. But I do like replacing the 2C position after trading Dubois for that FLA 1st. I’d imagine that Dubois deal happens on draft day when the jets know what they’ll likely be getting with that pick.


    Fair enough! I was basically wanting to replace Dubois and Horvat was the only realistic option. I'm not a fan of adding players on career years looking to cash in either but I'm not sure who else could be targeted as this point.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 54
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    I think it would be a massive mistake to allow him to walk for nothing, but if they’re in a similar position next year at this time I can’t see how they can trade him unless they’re getting a replacement C.


    My thoughts exactly man!
    18 janv. 2023 à 9 h 56
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    Quoting: Rooney
    Fair enough! I was basically wanting to replace Dubois and Horvat was the only realistic option. I'm not a fan of adding players on career years looking to cash in either but I'm not sure who else could be targeted as this point.


    There aren’t a lot of good C options lol, which is why Dubois would be super valuable to any team IMO. It’s why I think MTL fans are undervaluing the acquisition even if they have a chance to get him as a FA. Wouldn’t they want to trade for him to have the max term? I don’t think that florida first is a lot to ask either, MTL probably ends up with a top 5 pick.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 10 h 8
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    I know subtracting from a team isn’t exactly the best thing to do during a playoff run but would a three way with Vancouver work?

    Canes get PLD
    Winnipeg gets pieces from Carolina plus an extended Horvat
    Vancouver gets the pieces from Winnipeg whether they are Winnipeg’s or Carolina’s.

    The only reason I suggest it is because the longer Winnipeg keeps PLD, the lower his return will be (the whole I want to play for Montreal thing wont help).

    Carolina will get two playoffs out of PLD and potentially more if they can convince him to stay. Something around Teuvo and drury

    Im not saying Winnipeg should just a hypothetical here.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 10 h 40
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Look, PLD makes it obvious he wants to come here. Nothing is guaranteed, but we will take our chances on him July 1st 2024
    The best we would do iS probably : Dvorak + Kidney + VGK 2023 4th
    I'm a 100% sure a team beats that, so sign him another year, than you trade him at the TDL or you use him as your own rental

    I might be wrong, he might be traded here so I was more giving my opinion and what I hope the team will do. But it's realistic what you did up there


    Sounds like Philadelphia fan with johnny gaudreau back then lol
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    18 janv. 2023 à 11 h 2
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    Quoting: CanucksPain
    Sounds like Philadelphia fan with johnny gaudreau back then lol


    I never heard rumors of Gaudreau going to PHI until we knew Gaudreau wasn't staying in Calgary. We know PLD wants to play in MTL since his days in Colombus ...
    Not the same at all ¸
    But nothing set in stone
    18 janv. 2023 à 11 h 4
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    I never heard rumors of Gaudreau going to PHI until we knew Gaudreau wasn't staying in Calgary. We know PLD wants to play in MTL since his days in Colombus ...
    Not the same at all ¸
    But nothing set in stone


    You’re either new to hockey rumours and talks or just follow Habs news. Gaudreau to Philadelphia was a thing when JG had 2 years left on his deal LOL.
    18 janv. 2023 à 11 h 6
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    Quoting: CanucksPain
    You’re either new to hockey rumours and talks or just follow Habs news. Gaudreau to Philadelphia was a thing when JG had 2 years left on his deal LOL.


    Didnt saw hundreds of Gaudreau to PHI post here
    18 janv. 2023 à 11 h 23
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Didnt saw hundreds of Gaudreau to PHI post here


    There were some, but not a bunch because of Philly's cap situation. But there were a tonnnnn of JG to the Devils (he's a South Jersey guy) ACGMs. I think a lot of us get caught up in the "he's from there he must want to play there" hype sometimes.
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    18 janv. 2023 à 11 h 39
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    Quoting: dannibalcorpse
    There were some, but not a bunch because of Philly's cap situation. But there were a tonnnnn of JG to the Devils (he's a South Jersey guy) ACGMs. I think a lot of us get caught up in the "he's from there he must want to play there" hype sometimes.


    I saw Devils and Islanders a tons, but not PHI (because of JVR contract)
    But PLD have been linked to MTL forever lol
     
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