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Toronto Maple Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion (Part 3)

23 janv. 2023 à 20 h 33
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Bunting Penalty shot

This games just been weird lul


I was just going to say I prefer a penalty to a penalty shot. A penalty gives you a 25% chance of scoring, plus 2 minutes to build momentum.
A penalty shot gives you a 25% chance of scoring, and a 75% chance of giving the momentum to the team that made the save.

But then Nylander scored.
23 janv. 2023 à 20 h 35
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I was just going to say I prefer a penalty to a penalty shot. A penalty gives you a 25% chance of scoring, plus 2 minutes to build momentum.
A penalty shot gives you a 25% chance of scoring, and a 75% chance of giving the momentum to the team that made the save.

But then Nylander scored.


I believe if it was any goalie but Sorokin Bunting would have scored.
23 janv. 2023 à 20 h 36
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Funny thing about this game

Keefe puts Marner back with Matthews and Nylander back with JT

Since then

Tavares has a goal
Nylander 2 goals
Jarnkrok has a goal

Babcock would have just kept going with the same **** and we would be screaming. Love how Keefe adapts when his teams down or needs a spark
23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 3
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McMann is so, so good
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23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 10
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Anyone know why Gaudette hasn't gotten called up yet? When they signed him everyone though they were planning to use him as a 4th line centre, but he hasn't even been called up yet. Am I missing something or is everyone else wondering the same thing?


Its because he is bad
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23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 16
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Its because he is bad


He just never looked right in this lineup. Plus I’d rather see them give our younger players look’s instead
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23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
It’s cause he’s not good


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Its because he is bad


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He just never looked right in this lineup. Plus I’d rather see them give our younger players look’s instead


Just an observation, since when he was signed the narrative was that he as going to be the teams 4c. I agree they are better off playing the younger guys.
23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 37
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Samsonov went from great to concerning to great again

Its like when one goalie gets hot the other goes meh then rinse repeat. But hey the good thing is both have never been bad together for more than a week.
23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 38
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23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 42
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Just an observation, since when he was signed the narrative was that he as going to be the teams 4c. I agree they are better off playing the younger guys.


Your not wrong, they definitely signed him with that possible expectation. I think some even thought he might be 2LW. He was coming off a great performance at the World Championships.

But again, he just didn’t fit this group. I was positive NAK was going to be perfect also, again another poor fit.
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23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 45
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Your not wrong, they definitely signed him with that possible expectation. I think some even thought he might be 2LW. He was coming off a great performance at the World Championships.

But again, he just didn’t fit this group. I was positive NAK was going to be perfect also, again another poor fit.


I honestly thought at some point they were gonna throw him on the 4th line to find some offense. As man the issue with the bottom 6 is they are great defensively but the offense is just not there

Like for our top 6 the goals are all double digits. Bottom 6 NOBODY

I think Engvalls got the most with 9. But man we need someone/s who can carry some offense down there
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23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 47
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Your not wrong, they definitely signed him with that possible expectation. I think some even thought he might be 2LW. He was coming off a great performance at the World Championships.

But again, he just didn’t fit this group. I was positive NAK was going to be perfect also, again another poor fit.


Yah, I agree. I also though NAK would be a perfect fit as well, but somehow he just didn't work out.

Things are working out fine for the most part so I'm not complaining lol
23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 59
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Honestly if necessaey leave Jarnkrok up in the top 6 and maybe focus on getting guys to boost the third line and maybe an upgrade over Holl

Like yes its not perfect but Jarnkrok seems to have meshed in well with Tavares like Bunting did with Matthews

Still find some good pieces but not someone whose gonna cost 2 1sts and Minten or something.
23 janv. 2023 à 21 h 59
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Sue me, but I'd still like the Leafs to look into Beavillier if they can get him retained.
23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 3
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Sue me, but I'd still like the Leafs to look into Beavillier if they can get him retained.


I’m not sold on him, as crazy as I might be I’d rather Pageau. I really believe we need a 3C
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23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 4
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I’m not sold on him, as crazy as I might be I’d rather Pageau. I really believe we need a 3C


Yep even at 50% the guys got 9 goals and 10 assists in 46gp and is making slightly more than 2mill

Basically Engvall production

As for the 3c let me introduce you to Eetu Luostarinen 24 years old 10 goals 12 assists 22 points. Is making 1.5mill for this season and next. Can play PP/PK and last years playoffs was the panthers 5th best playdriver for offense no joke.

https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1531670590070718464?lang=en

Issue will be prying him out of Florida but maybe Zito will be mad enough to trade someone like this
23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 11
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I’m not sold on him, as crazy as I might be I’d rather Pageau. I really believe we need a 3C


So do I, but it doesn't have to be one or the other.
23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 25
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So do I, but it doesn't have to be one or the other.


Fair
23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 30
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
So do I, but it doesn't have to be one or the other.


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Fair


Maybe I'm misunstanding you guys, but there's no way they can afford both Pageau and Beau. The leafs can't afford 2 4mil+ guys with term lol
23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 35
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Maybe I'm misunstanding you guys, but there's no way they can afford both Pageau and Beau. The leafs can't afford 2 4mil+ guys with term lol


Not both guys but yes to needing at top 6 LW and 3C.
23 janv. 2023 à 22 h 41
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Not both guys but yes to needing at top 6 LW and 3C.


Ohhh ok, in that case I absolutly agree.
23 janv. 2023 à 23 h 40
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Not both guys but yes to needing at top 6 LW and 3C.


I feel with how Jarnkrok has been a 3C and a scoring wing for the third line's what we need

Like think what Tampa did when they went out and got Coleman and Goodrow

As my concern is we drop him and things fall apart. As rn hes just worked out well up there and I know there are better options but hey its working.
24 janv. 2023 à 0 h 31
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I'm not someone that is particularly inclined to trade Sandin, but if he can be moved to be get a guy like Timo Meier and ensure we don't have to move Knies, I'd do it in a heartbeat. If we can go out and get Gavrikov and Meier, this team is a legit contender. It's SUPER unrealistic, but imagine:

To CBJ: Abruzzese, 2024 2nd Round Pick, 2023 3rd Round Pick
To TOR: Gavrikov, 2023 4th Round Pick

To SJS: Sandin, Hirvonen, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2024 1st Round Pick
To TOR: Meier (50% retained, extension agreed upon)

Meier - Matthews - Nylander
Bunting - Tavares - Marner
Engvall - Player X (Maybe Bonino?)- Jarnkrok
Holmberg - Kampf - Kerfoot

Rielly - Liljegren
Gavrikov - Brodie (👀)
Giordano - Timmins
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24 janv. 2023 à 0 h 34
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I'm not someone that is particularly inclined to trade Sandin, but if he can be moved to be get a guy like Timo Meier and ensure we don't have to move Knies, I'd do it in a heartbeat. If we can go out and get Gavrikov and Meier, this team is a legit contender. It's SUPER unrealistic, but imagine:

To CBJ: Abruzzese, 2024 2nd Round Pick, 2023 3rd Round Pick
To TOR: Gavrikov, 2023 4th Round Pick

To SJS: Sandin, Hirvonen, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2024 1st Round Pick
To TOR: Meier (50% retained, extension agreed upon)

Meier - Matthews - Nylander
Bunting - Tavares - Marner
Engvall - Player X (Maybe Bonino?)- Jarnkrok
Holmberg - Kampf - Kerfoot

Rielly - Liljegren
Gavrikov - Brodie (👀)
Giordano - Timmins


Or if we miss out on Meier and he lands in Carolina, maybe we target a guy like Teravainen
24 janv. 2023 à 1 h 58
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I'm not someone that is particularly inclined to trade Sandin, but if he can be moved to be get a guy like Timo Meier and ensure we don't have to move Knies, I'd do it in a heartbeat. If we can go out and get Gavrikov and Meier, this team is a legit contender. It's SUPER unrealistic, but imagine:

To CBJ: Abruzzese, 2024 2nd Round Pick, 2023 3rd Round Pick
To TOR: Gavrikov, 2023 4th Round Pick

To SJS: Sandin, Hirvonen, 2023 1st Round Pick, 2024 1st Round Pick
To TOR: Meier (50% retained, extension agreed upon)

Meier - Matthews - Nylander
Bunting - Tavares - Marner
Engvall - Player X (Maybe Bonino?)- Jarnkrok
Holmberg - Kampf - Kerfoot

Rielly - Liljegren
Gavrikov - Brodie (👀)
Giordano - Timmins


I like this and can get behind it. Make it happen Dubas!
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