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23-24 Meier w extension

Créé par: BTW8892
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2023
Publié: 17 janv. 2023
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Description
Assuming there is legitimate smoke between the Rangers and Sharks about Meier, it's not totally impossible to fit him into the long-term plans with an extension.

Barclay Goodrow doesn't necessarily have to be included in the Meier deal, but he would essentially be a straight cap dump over the summer. For the purpose of this, I just included him to shed the immediate cap space. The only downside to this idea is bridging Miller, thus potentially making him more expensive in two years. That being said, the Rangers would be in a much better spot cap wise in 2025-26 and with expected cap increases, it shouldn't be much of an issue getting Miller locked up.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Meier, Timo89 000 000 $
Miller, K'Andre23 250 000 $
Chytil, Filip23 500 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Meier, Timo [Droits de RFA]
SJS
  1. Goodrow, Barclay
  2. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (DAL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1883 500 000 $81 292 024 $0 $965 000 $2 207 976 $
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Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
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Zibanejad, Mika
8 500 000 $
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Kakko, Kaapo
2 100 000 $
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Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
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UFA - 3
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Trocheck, Vincent
5 625 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Meier, Timo
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
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Othmann, Brennan
894 167 $
AG
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Chytil, Filip
3 500 000 $
C, AG
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Vesey, Jimmy
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AD, AG
UFA - 2
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Cuylle, Will
828 333 $
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Brodzinski, Jonny
762 500 $
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Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
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Fox, Adam
9 500 000 $
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Shesterkin, Igor
5 666 667 $
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Miller, K'Andre
3 250 000 $
DG
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Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
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Robertson, Matthew
797 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Schneider, Braden
925 000 $
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17 janv. à 20 h 49
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Take out Goodrow and maybe
17 janv. à 21 h 0
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Quoting: glarson17
Take out Goodrow and maybe


Take out lafreniere then maybe because rentals don't pull a first overall pick... even if he's struggling
17 janv. à 21 h 38
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Take out lafreniere then maybe because rentals don't pull a first overall pick... even if he's struggling


Rentals don’t pull a 1st? Where have you been the past 5 years? Sharks aren’t taking a cap dump in Goodrow back, cost a 1st to move him alone
17 janv. à 22 h 17
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Quoting: glarson17
Take out Goodrow and maybe


Losing the Goodrow cap hit is the key to pulling this off. But NYR cap isssues are not SJ's problem. Maybe if a 3rd team is involved (BUF)?? Even still probably a moot point. Paying Meier 9M would still make it real difficult to extend Miller and Chytil (both are low balled by about 1M each in this lineup). And Goodrow is really valued by the front office and coach...if he were to be moved it would be over the summer- not during a playoff push.
17 janv. à 22 h 34
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Quoting: Jimbo1119
Losing the Goodrow cap hit is the key to pulling this off. But NYR cap isssues are not SJ's problem. Maybe if a 3rd team is involved (BUF)?? Even still probably a moot point. Paying Meier 9M would still make it real difficult to extend Miller and Chytil (both are low balled by about 1M each in this lineup). And Goodrow is really valued by the front office and coach...if he were to be moved it would be over the summer- not during a playoff push.


As I explained in the description, Goodrow was simply included in that deal as a means to get rid of the salary. The assumption was also that Goodrow would be dumped in the summer and kept for the current run.

Quoting: glarson17
Rentals don’t pull a 1st? Where have you been the past 5 years? Sharks aren’t taking a cap dump in Goodrow back, cost a 1st to move him alone


Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Take out lafreniere then maybe because rentals don't pull a first overall pick... even if he's struggling


I'm glad both of you paid attention to the actual breakdown and read through it. This whole thing was put together under the assumption that Meier is traded with an extension to see how the numbers broke down. Again, Goodrow was included just to see how everything worked out without his cap hit on the books.
17 janv. à 23 h 22
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Take out lafreniere then maybe because rentals don't pull a first overall pick... even if he's struggling


Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Take out lafreniere then maybe because rentals don't pull a first overall pick... even if he's struggling


Goodrow was traded from the sharks to TBL for a 1st…
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18 janv. à 9 h 30
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Take out lafreniere then maybe because rentals don't pull a first overall pick... even if he's struggling


lol what a bad comment....
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As I explained in the description, Goodrow was simply included in that deal as a means to get rid of the salary. The assumption was also that Goodrow would be dumped in the summer and kept for the current run.





I'm glad both of you paid attention to the actual breakdown and read through it. This whole thing was put together under the assumption that Meier is traded with an extension to see how the numbers broke down. Again, Goodrow was included just to see how everything worked out without his cap hit on the books.


I don't think it makes sense for the Sharks to take Goodrow...
18 janv. à 10 h 15
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Quoting: NotDougWilson
Goodrow was traded from the sharks to TBL for a 1st…


Idk why you quoted me???
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lol what a bad comment....


Show me the last time a 1st overall pick was traded for a rental within 3 years of being drafted... I'll wait
18 janv. à 10 h 17
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As I explained in the description, Goodrow was simply included in that deal as a means to get rid of the salary. The assumption was also that Goodrow would be dumped in the summer and kept for the current run.





I'm glad both of you paid attention to the actual breakdown and read through it. This whole thing was put together under the assumption that Meier is traded with an extension to see how the numbers broke down. Again, Goodrow was included just to see how everything worked out without his cap hit on the books.


Yeah too bad millers gunna get 4m+ and you don't even have a 4c
18 janv. à 10 h 18
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Quoting: glarson17
Rentals don’t pull a 1st? Where have you been the past 5 years? Sharks aren’t taking a cap dump in Goodrow back, cost a 1st to move him alone


Words have meanings. So there is a difference in 1st and 1st overall. Never said a rental can't pull a 1st.
18 janv. à 10 h 19
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Just meant to give a quick response to glarson…didn’t realize you’d already pretty much covered that in your desc….my bad….in any case, I still don’t think Meier is doable at 9M per. You,re about 2.5M below the Cap- but still light around 4 players on this roster…and both the Miller and Chytil deals each will probably be 1M more each. So unless there is a plan to unload one of either Kreider, Panarin, or Trouba (any of which might actually negate the need to move Goodrow), talk of Meier is really moot. And I highly doubt he’ll be dealt as a rental (not that they should consider high priced rentals anyway).
18 janv. à 10 h 39
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Show me the last time a 1st overall pick was traded for a rental within 3 years of being drafted... I'll wait


Yakupov was drafted 1oa in 2012-2013 and was traded in 2016 to the blues
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Yakupov was drafted 1oa in 2012-2013 and was traded in 2016 to the blues


Spent 4 years with the oilers so this is pointless because I said within 3 years... next attempt
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Spent 4 years with the oilers so this is pointless because I said within 3 years... next attempt


Erik Johnson (1oa) started playing for STL in 2007 and in 2010 he got traded traded to Colorado
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Erik Johnson (1oa) started playing for STL in 2007 and in 2010 he got traded traded to Colorado


Happened halfway through the 2010 season so this is pointless because he said within 3 years and this example technically happened 3 years and 3 months later

(sarcasm)
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Quoting: glarson17
Take out Goodrow and maybe


Without including Goodrow, NYR can't afford to extend Meier. And there's no way they'd trade Lafreniere in this deal without being able to extend Meier.
18 janv. à 15 h 29
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Without including Goodrow, NYR can't afford to extend Meier. And there's no way they'd trade Lafreniere in this deal without being able to extend Meier.


I mean Goodrow is a 1st to take that contract, and Meier>>>Laf. I don’t see why the sharks should lower their price on a guy they don’t even have to move because a team can’t afford him after this year, that’s their problem
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Quoting: All_Knowing
Happened halfway through the 2010 season so this is pointless because he said within 3 years and this example technically happened 3 years and 3 months later

(sarcasm)


I'm running out of attempts!!
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Quoting: glarson17
I mean Goodrow is a 1st to take that contract, and Meier>>>Laf. I don’t see why the sharks should lower their price on a guy they don’t even have to move because a team can’t afford him after this year, that’s their problem


Fair enough, I'm just pointing out that it can't happen without Goodrow. Instead of suggesting without Goodrow, a more realistic suggestion would be to add another 1st ?
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Quoting: NotDougWilson
Erik Johnson (1oa) started playing for STL in 2007 and in 2010 he got traded traded to Colorado


Quoting: All_Knowing
Happened halfway through the 2010 season so this is pointless because he said within 3 years and this example technically happened 3 years and 3 months later

(sarcasm)


Cute you put sarcasm but once again does not fit the criteria try again.

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I'm running out of attempts!!


You're running out of attempts because it hasn't happened.
 
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