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Créé par: Mental_yuppi
Date de création initiale: 15 janv. 2023
Publié: 16 janv. 2023
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (COL)
COL
  1. Monahan, Sean (3 187 500 $ retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Choix de 2024 ronde en 1e (EDM)
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel
3.
MTL
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
NYR
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 4e (PIT)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Montreal is a 3rd team to retain 25% on kane
CHI
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Evgeni Dadonov: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
  • Nick Bonino: 1 025 000 $ (50%)
  • Sean Monahan: 3 187 500 $ (50%)
  • Jonathan Drouin: 2 750 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2023
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2024
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Logo de EDM
Logo de COL
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $68 540 832 $1 132 500 $5 490 000 $13 959 168 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AG
RFA - 1
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Suzuki, Nick
7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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Ylönen, Jesse
880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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Slafkovsky, Juraj
950 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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Dach, Kirby
3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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Kravtsov, Vitali
875 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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Evans, Jake
1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Harris, Jordan
842 500 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Barron, Justin
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Montembeault, Samuel
1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Xhekaj, Arber
828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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Kovacevic, Johnathan
766 667 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Dadonov, Evgeni
2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Guhle, Kaiden
863 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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Wideman, Chris
762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5

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16 janv. à 19 h 7
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If you look at 3rd team retaining salary, I think depending on the salary retain it’s a 4th or 5th round pick
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16 janv. à 19 h 9
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Easy NO THANKS from the Rangers because they already have a winger that never scores named Sammy Blais. Habs would have to give a 1st round pick and retain 50% for the Rangers to even think about taking Drouin and they may give you a bag of old pucks in exchange.
16 janv. à 19 h 12
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Hawks aren't giving a top 35 pick for extra retention on a Kane deal. The real $$ amount will be $400k or less depending on when the trade happens. Try a 5th.
16 janv. à 19 h 16
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Avs decline easily.
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16 janv. à 19 h 34
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Still a "no" from the Avs. You can keep trying all you want but the Avs aren't trading their 2023 1st, especially not for Monahan.
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16 janv. à 19 h 42
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
If you look at 3rd team retaining salary, I think depending on the salary retain it’s a 4th or 5th round pick


2.5m is a lot so therefore it's a 2nd
16 janv. à 19 h 43
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Quoting: delneggs
Easy NO THANKS from the Rangers because they already have a winger that never scores named Sammy Blais. Habs would have to give a 1st round pick and retain 50% for the Rangers to even think about taking Drouin and they may give you a bag of old pucks in exchange.


Calm down
16 janv. à 19 h 43
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Avs decline easily.


We'll see
16 janv. à 19 h 45
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Quoting: Mental_yuppi
Calm down


U do the same
16 janv. à 19 h 46
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-It's been said ad nauseam but Colorado doesn't need Sean Monahan and isn't giving up this year's 1st for him - they've only had 6 picks in the last two drafts, with half of those being in the 6th & 7th; and if they trade this year's first they won't pick until the 5th round in the 2023 draft. Also worth noting: Sean Monahan has already missed 6 weeks with an injury. With his injury history, don't you think teams are going to see this as a huge red flag?

-I could see Edmonton thinking about this but I'd think that they might run into some cap trouble next year without moving someone. They've only got 8 forwards under contract for next year and only $8.3M in cap space - plus Evan Bouchard will be needing a new deal, along with a few other RFA forwards. Oilers fans can probably shed more light on this, but I would thinking adding Eddy to next year's roster might create a bit of a logjam that would force them to trade a guy.

-No chance the Rangers would bite on this. They'd be spending a big chunk of their deadline cash on turning Kravstov (5 pts in 24 GP, 23 years old, RFA) into Drouin (0-12-12 in 28 GP, $2.75M cap hit, pending UFA). I just don't think it's enough of an improvement for them to send out a player like Kravstov - I think he's better used as a chip to potentially get a winger with term, if they were going to use him in a move. Drouin just has too big of a cap hit for the production he brings to the table - I still say that with him (and Dadonov) Montreal will get the best return by sending a later pick to a third team to double-retain those guys down to cap hits that are more in line with their bottom-6 production.

-Speaking of third teams, no one is giving up a 2nd round pick for retention - there's no precedent really for that kind of price. Florida got a 6th rounder and the rights to a 25 year old KHL guy for retaining $1.325M of Max Domi last year; San Jose got a 4th for retaining $1.375M of Nick Foligno two years ago, the Leafs got a 5th for retaining $1.1M of Robin Lehner three years ago, I could go on but you get the point. Max I could see the Habs getting as a third team on a Kane or Toews retention would be a 4th and a warm body prospect.
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16 janv. à 19 h 56
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Quoting: Mental_yuppi
2.5m is a lot so therefore it's a 2nd


It's $2.625 in cap hit, but the real dollars will be $400k or less depending on when the trade is made. Kane's actual salary this season is only $2.9m. Half of that has already been paid. Sorry, but $400k of retention doesn't get much asset wise.
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16 janv. à 20 h 40
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Every team easily declines. Some even block your number for such lopsided deals
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16 janv. à 23 h 15
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Quoting: Mental_yuppi
We'll see


I'd have money on it not even being close.
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17 janv. à 9 h 51
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Quoting: Mental_yuppi
We'll see


It's wishful thinking to believe Monahan is bringing back a 1st from the Avs. I'm not even sure why anyone would pay that price; he just is not a difference-maker. Plus, there is a strong chance he gets injured again.
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17 janv. à 16 h 23
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It's wishful thinking to believe Monahan is bringing back a 1st from the Avs. I'm not even sure why anyone would pay that price; he just is not a difference-maker. Plus, there is a strong chance he gets injured again.


Because the alternative will be even more expensive
17 janv. à 16 h 34
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Because the alternative will be even more expensive


When everyone is healthy, Colorado can roll out these potential lines:

Nichushkin - Mackinnon - Rantanen
Lehkonen - Landeskog - Rodridgues
Newhook - Compher - O'Connor
Cogliano - Helm - Malgin

I don't see anyone in that top 6 that Monahan knocks out of their lineup spot, which means you're upgrading your bottom 6. Do you really think it's good asset management for *any* team to spend a 1st to upgrade their 3rd line? Much less an Avs team that's already traded two of their top prospects at last year's deadline, and between the 2021, '22, & '23 drafts only has kept 10 picks (with 7 of those 10 being in the 5th round or later)? I just can't see them moving this year's 1st unless something incredible falls into their laps, value-wise.
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