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Joel Edmundson aka Ben Chiarot 20

Créé par: DrDuck
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 janv. 2023
Publié: 15 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
+ a prospect C potential
WSH
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Ben Chiarot was also -18 last year
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $76 968 332 $1 132 500 $5 490 000 $5 531 668 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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UFA - 3
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
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880 833 $880 833 $
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
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UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 3
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
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UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
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RFA - 3

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15 janv. 2023 à 23 h 31
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It would be amazing if we can get a 1st for Eddy, mony, allen.

I would also try to move Dvo because Owen Beck will be an upgrade at 3rd C
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15 janv. 2023 à 23 h 35
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Quoting: Habs4ever
It would be amazing if we can get a 1st for Eddy, mony, allen.

I would also try to move Dvo because Owen Beck will be an upgrade at 3rd C


I'm okay with Dvo. The guy is 56% on faceoff and 18 pts in 44 pts. It's like 34 pts in 82 games. In my book, it's the production of a 3rd C.
15 janv. 2023 à 23 h 40
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Forever going to dine on that Chiarot trade, even as everyone blasted it at the time, he played awful in the playoffs, and now FLA is regretting it fully....but yes. Let's watch another desperate GM make a big mistake.
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15 janv. 2023 à 23 h 56
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Forever going to dine on that Chiarot trade, even as everyone blasted it at the time, he played awful in the playoffs, and now FLA is regretting it fully....but yes. Let's watch another desperate GM make a big mistake.


Teams throw high picks for those type of defenseman every trade deadline. It worked for Tampa in 2021 with Savard.
16 janv. 2023 à 0 h 3
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Washington is probably questionable as being a playoff team next year, so a first next year is probably not even on the table. Besides, Edmundson is not worth a first. Chiarot never was and that trade always stunk, and Edmundson is definitely not worth one even with retention.
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16 janv. 2023 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: capsleafs447
Washington is probably questionable as being a playoff team next year, so a first next year is probably not even on the table. Besides, Edmundson is not worth a first. Chiarot never was and that trade always stunk, and Edmundson is definitely not worth one even with retention.


it's not that he's worth a first, but with 50% retained edmundson is a good 4/5 dman for 1.75 million this year and next, when teams start bidding on him, someone will give in an trade a 1st+ for him, whether you feel he's worth it or not
16 janv. 2023 à 10 h 16
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Chiarot had a stronger defensive reputation, was more productive, and (most importantly) didn't carry the injury red flags that Edmundson has.

It's also worth pointing out that if your trade comp for Edmundson is a move that both at the time, and now in hindsight, was absolutely terrible for the team acquiring him, then I think you gotta take a step back and think about that. GMs are going to see what happened to the Panthers this year (gave up a 1st for a rental, got cap crunched and now that 1st might be a lottery pick) and are going to hesitate - remember, these are NHL GMs we're talking about, a group of 32 men who don't need another excuse to *not* make a move that helps their team. The Florida fallout post-Chiarot trade is going to scare a lot of them off, if Edmundson's lackluster play and injury history doesn't first.
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16 janv. 2023 à 10 h 33
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Quoting: DrDuck
I'm okay with Dvo. The guy is 56% on faceoff and 18 pts in 44 pts. It's like 34 pts in 82 games. In my book, it's the production of a 3rd C.


Quoting: DrDuck
I'm okay with Dvo. The guy is 56% on faceoff and 18 pts in 44 pts. It's like 34 pts in 82 games. In my book, it's the production of a 3rd C.


Agreed, however Owen Beck will be an upgrade. My 3 C’s of the future are suze, dach, Beck.
16 janv. 2023 à 11 h 22
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There's probably a team that would give you that for Edmunson, but you're not getting it from Washington...
17 janv. 2023 à 8 h 31
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Washington already has 6 defensemen who can play the left side without issues (Orlov, Fehervary, Irwin, Alexeyev, Gustafsson, Van RIemsdyk), so Washington wouldn't even consider making that. If Matheson was a 1 year rental, maybe, but not Edmundson since that would all but certify that Orlov would leave which would be a major loss of talent that Edmundson can't fill.
17 janv. 2023 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: Matt1567
it's not that he's worth a first, but with 50% retained edmundson is a good 4/5 dman for 1.75 million this year and next, when teams start bidding on him, someone will give in an trade a 1st+ for him, whether you feel he's worth it or not


I missed that he has term, so yeah, retention with term would probably net a first. The quote below says it perfectly, though. Washington doesn’t have enough futures and isn’t good enough now to trade away a first in a future year.

Quoting: Highlander1
There's probably a team that would give you that for Edmunson, but you're not getting it from Washington...
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