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Créé par: WpgJts

Date de création initiale: 14 janv. 2023

Publié: 14 janv. 2023

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal

Transactions

MTL

Lucic, Milan
Pelletier, Jakob

CGY

Kovacevic, Johnathan
Monahan, Sean (1 200 000 $ retained)
Choix de 2023 ronde en 5e (CGY)

MTL

Petrov, Matvei
Puljujärvi, Jesse

EDM

Edmundson, Joel

MTL

Beauvillier, Anthony
Bolduc, Samuel

NYI

Anderson, Josh

MTL

Appleton, Mason
Capobianco, Kyle
Lambert, Brad
Vesalainen, Kristian [Liste de réserve]

WPG

Dvorak, Christian (1 000 000 $ retained)

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Evgeni Dadonov: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
Nick Bonino: 1 025 000 $ (50%)
Sean Monahan: 1 200 000 $ (18.82%)
Christian Dvorak: 1 000 000 $ (22.47%)

ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE	1E RONDE	2E RONDE	3E RONDE	4E RONDE	5E RONDE	6E RONDE	7E RONDE
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	78 430 832 $	1 132 500 $	5 490 000 $	4 069 168 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 880 833 $ AG RFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $ C UFA - 8	Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 2
Dadonov, Evgeni 2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 4	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 3
Beauvillier, Anthony 4 150 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $ C UFA - 3	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Puljujärvi, Jesse 3 000 000 $ AD RFA - 1
		Ylönen, Jesse 880 833 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Harris, Jordan 842 500 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Allen, Jake 2 875 000 $ G UFA - 1
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Barron, Justin 925 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $ DD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $ G RFA - 3
Capobianco, Kyle 762 500 $ DG RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
	Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 3	Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
	Appleton, Mason 2 166 667 $ AD UFA - 3

14 janv. à 18 h 40

sens65

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That trade makes literally no sense for Winnipeg.

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14 janv. à 18 h 48

Db1899

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Isles decline

14 janv. à 18 h 51

Windjammer

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Modifié 14 janv. à 19 h 2

That's "fart in an elevator" bad for the Jets.

Dumping Anderson will require some serious long term bad cap going back to Montreal and/or a hefty add from Montreal.

CF18GM et Mr_Canoehead a aimé ceci.

14 janv. à 18 h 59

HockeyIsMyPassion61

57 year hockey nut.

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Islanders and Winnipeg pass big time.

14 janv. à 21 h 56

Ledge_And_Dairy

Rejoint: juin 2019

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Flames trade is cap circumvention

16 janv. à 8 h 39

tm0000

Rejoint: juill. 2018

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Flames trade is cap circumvention

I don't think so. It's not like Calgary traded him away and Montreal immediately traded him back with retained salary.

16 janv. à 8 h 59

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: tm0000

I don't think so. It's not like Calgary traded him away and Montreal immediately traded him back with retained salary.

Then that's just you not understanding the rules because that is 100% cap circumvention

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16 janv. à 9 h 20

dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

Rejoint: févr. 2018

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Quoting: tm0000

I don't think so. It's not like Calgary traded him away and Montreal immediately traded him back with retained salary.

Since Montreal acquired him from Calgary, they can't trade him back with retention, regardless of how long ago the trade was. If there was no retention, it would be fine.

Beyond that, though, I can't imagine why Calgary is giving up a strong prospect in Pelletier to acquire a guy who hasn't played in a month and a half.

16 janv. à 9 h 23

tm0000

Rejoint: juill. 2018

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Then that's just you not understanding the rules because that is 100% cap circumvention

Ok. Show me here where it says anything about it not being allowed to trade a player back to his previous team with salary retained.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained

If Calgary had retained salary on the original trade, then they would not be allowed to reacquire him. If they traded him to Montreal and then reacquired the next day with Montreal retaining salary, I'm sure the league office would disallow that for cap circumvention. Trading him away, letting him play in Montreal for 3/4 of the season and then reacquiring him with salary retained is no more cap circumvention than Tampa leaving Kucherov on LTIR all season and having him available for the playoffs - i.e., at most, it may violate the spirit of the cap, but is not technically against the rules.

16 janv. à 9 h 24

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tm0000

Rejoint: juill. 2018

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

No. If Calgary had retained salary in the original trade, they would not be allowed to reacquire him for one year. Since there was no retention in the original trade Montreal can trade him to whoever they want with or with out retention.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained

16 janv. à 9 h 35

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dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

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Quoting: tm0000

CBA section 50.5 (e) (iii) (C) (4): Under no circumstances may a club reacquire as part of a retained salary transaction the standard player contract of a player who was on that club's reserve list within the past calendar year.

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16 janv. à 9 h 40

#12

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: tm0000

This is directly from the CBA

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16 janv. à 11 h 55

#13

tm0000

Rejoint: juill. 2018

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

I guess I stand corrected.

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16 janv. à 12 h 0

#14

dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

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Quoting: tm0000

I guess I stand corrected.

it's absolutely buried in the CBA, I just remember having this conversation with someone a long while back and having looked it up previously

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