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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 janv. 2023
Publié: 14 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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CGY
  1. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  2. Monahan, Sean (1 200 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $74 905 832 $1 132 500 $5 490 000 $7 594 168 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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UFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 3

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14 janv. 2023 à 18 h 40
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That trade makes literally no sense for Winnipeg.
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14 janv. 2023 à 18 h 48
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14 janv. 2023 à 18 h 51
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That's "fart in an elevator" bad for the Jets.

Dumping Anderson will require some serious long term bad cap going back to Montreal and/or a hefty add from Montreal.
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14 janv. 2023 à 18 h 59
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Islanders and Winnipeg pass big time.
14 janv. 2023 à 21 h 56
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Flames trade is cap circumvention
16 janv. 2023 à 8 h 39
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Flames trade is cap circumvention


I don't think so. It's not like Calgary traded him away and Montreal immediately traded him back with retained salary.
16 janv. 2023 à 8 h 59
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I don't think so. It's not like Calgary traded him away and Montreal immediately traded him back with retained salary.


Then that's just you not understanding the rules because that is 100% cap circumvention
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16 janv. 2023 à 9 h 20
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I don't think so. It's not like Calgary traded him away and Montreal immediately traded him back with retained salary.


Since Montreal acquired him from Calgary, they can't trade him back with retention, regardless of how long ago the trade was. If there was no retention, it would be fine.

Beyond that, though, I can't imagine why Calgary is giving up a strong prospect in Pelletier to acquire a guy who hasn't played in a month and a half.
16 janv. 2023 à 9 h 23
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Then that's just you not understanding the rules because that is 100% cap circumvention


Ok. Show me here where it says anything about it not being allowed to trade a player back to his previous team with salary retained.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained

If Calgary had retained salary on the original trade, then they would not be allowed to reacquire him. If they traded him to Montreal and then reacquired the next day with Montreal retaining salary, I'm sure the league office would disallow that for cap circumvention. Trading him away, letting him play in Montreal for 3/4 of the season and then reacquiring him with salary retained is no more cap circumvention than Tampa leaving Kucherov on LTIR all season and having him available for the playoffs - i.e., at most, it may violate the spirit of the cap, but is not technically against the rules.
16 janv. 2023 à 9 h 24
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Since Montreal acquired him from Calgary, they can't trade him back with retention, regardless of how long ago the trade was. If there was no retention, it would be fine.

Beyond that, though, I can't imagine why Calgary is giving up a strong prospect in Pelletier to acquire a guy who hasn't played in a month and a half.


No. If Calgary had retained salary in the original trade, they would not be allowed to reacquire him for one year. Since there was no retention in the original trade Montreal can trade him to whoever they want with or with out retention.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained
16 janv. 2023 à 9 h 35
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No. If Calgary had retained salary in the original trade, they would not be allowed to reacquire him for one year. Since there was no retention in the original trade Montreal can trade him to whoever they want with or with out retention.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained


CBA section 50.5 (e) (iii) (C) (4): Under no circumstances may a club reacquire as part of a retained salary transaction the standard player contract of a player who was on that club's reserve list within the past calendar year.
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16 janv. 2023 à 9 h 40
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Ok. Show me here where it says anything about it not being allowed to trade a player back to his previous team with salary retained.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained

If Calgary had retained salary on the original trade, then they would not be allowed to reacquire him. If they traded him to Montreal and then reacquired the next day with Montreal retaining salary, I'm sure the league office would disallow that for cap circumvention. Trading him away, letting him play in Montreal for 3/4 of the season and then reacquiring him with salary retained is no more cap circumvention than Tampa leaving Kucherov on LTIR all season and having him available for the playoffs - i.e., at most, it may violate the spirit of the cap, but is not technically against the rules.


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No. If Calgary had retained salary in the original trade, they would not be allowed to reacquire him for one year. Since there was no retention in the original trade Montreal can trade him to whoever they want with or with out retention.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#retained

This is directly from the CBA
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16 janv. 2023 à 11 h 55
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CBA section 50.5 (e) (iii) (C) (4): Under no circumstances may a club reacquire as part of a retained salary transaction the standard player contract of a player who was on that club's reserve list within the past calendar year.


I guess I stand corrected.
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16 janv. 2023 à 12 h 0
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I guess I stand corrected.


it's absolutely buried in the CBA, I just remember having this conversation with someone a long while back and having looked it up previously
 
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