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Big but realistic offseason

Créé par: TheRealisticGuy
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 11 janv. 2023
Publié: 12 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Edmundson isn't traded at the 2023 TDL because Kent Hughes can't get a 2023 1st round pick for Eddy. With Guhle injury, Edmundson remains with the team and will be dealt at the 2024 TDL
Monahan is being dealt at the 2023 TDL. Drouin & Dadonov too if there is a buyer. If we can't use the 3 retention slots on Monahan, Drouin & Dadonov, we could retained as a 3rd team on rentals only

Draft day : MTL draft outside of the top 5, probably 6-7-8. I would expect them to draft Dalibor Dvorsky with their own 2023 1st round pick and draft Sandin Pellikka with FLO 1st round pick (around 15)

Laval Rocket :

Farrell-Richard-Roy
Heineman-Mesar-Simoneau
Gignac-Kidney-Belzile
Condotta-Mysak-Teasdale
Veteran

Beaudin-Barron
Struble-Dello
Fairbrother-Mailloux
Trudeau

Portillo
Dobes

Players on the taxi squad goes back in their respective league (Beck CHL the 3 others overseas)

I expect MTL to trade Joel Edmundson & Mike Hoffman at the 2024 TDL while retaining 50% of their salary

Line up after the 2024 TDL :

Caufield-Suzuki-Dach
Slafkovsky-Pageau-Anderson
Comtois-Dvorak-Gallagher
RHP/Ylönen-Evans-Armia

Guhle-Savard
Harris-Kovacevic
Xhekaj-Barron
Wideman
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
1950 000 $
2897 500 $
2863 333 $
2828 333 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 875 000 $
12 445 000 $
21 700 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Dvorsky, Dalibor
3950 000 $
Sandin Pellikka, Axel
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Comtois, Maxime [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Change of scenery for Comtois
Draft day trade
ANA
  1. Pitlick, Rem
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Change of scenery for Pitlick
ANA gets a 2023 pick
2.
MTL
  1. Trineyev, Bogdan
Détails additionnels:
Only a B prospect because of Matheson cap hit a little high
Trade made during the 2023 Offseason
WSH
  1. Matheson, Michael
Détails additionnels:
WSH are staying competitive and Matheson could replace Orlov (Matheson is younger with 3 years left on his deal)
3.
MTL
  1. Portillo, Erik [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Good goalie prospect who isn't signing with BUF
BUF
  1. Tuch, Luke [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Alex brother, former 2nd round pick who plays a gritty game
4.
MTL
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
JGP could waive for MTL
MTL didn't win the lottery so they draft outside the top 5 (means no center NHL ready). They could use JPG as a stop gap while taking a good asset (pick). Without a high pick, we wouldn't be interested
NYI
  1. Montembeault, Samuel
Détails additionnels:
This trade will make room for Aatu Raty and free up 4M in cap space while receiving a cheap back up goaltender. The pick going to MTL would be top 10 protected
5.
MTL
    Uncondional waivers for purpose of contract termination
    ARI
    1. Norlinder, Mattias
    Détails additionnels:
    Norlinder didn't worked out, he goes back in Sweden
    6.
    MTL
    1. Boltmann, Jake [Liste de réserve]
    CGY
    1. Pezzetta, Michael [Droits de RFA]
    Rachats de contrats
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
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    Logo de MTL
    Logo de PIT
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    2024
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    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MTL
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    2025
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2383 500 000 $69 371 666 $1 170 000 $3 920 000 $14 128 334 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
    2 445 000 $2 445 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    875 000 $875 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    828 333 $828 333 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    766 667 $766 667 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    890 000 $890 000 $
    G
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    850 000 $850 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    850 000 $850 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    762 500 $762 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    Dvorsky, Dalibor
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Sandin Pellikka, Axel
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    885 000 $885 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    859 167 $859 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
    AD
    RFA - 2

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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 13
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    Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

    Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?
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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 23
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    Id go for Levi in Buffalo, much higher ceiling IMO. We're also not trading Matheson after one year, especially if Edmundson goes
    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 23
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    sabres say yes
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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 24
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    Quoting: YTSnipeCity
    Id go for Levi in Buffalo, much higher ceiling IMO. We're also not trading Matheson after one year, especially if Edmundson goes


    levi wont happen. sabres decline
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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 24
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    Anaheim declines, Comtois is at least an NHL player, Pitlick has had changes of scenery multiple times and he can't make it stick.
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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 24
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    I think the Caps trade is fine but I think they will just end up re-signing Orlov which would leave no room for Matheson.
    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 25
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    Quoting: slapshot723
    Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

    Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?


    Fair enough for Pageau, I should have done a post on the proposition only before making this AGM

    For Beauvillier, we aren't welling to give you draft pick or prospect for him
    I doubt we have wingers you would be welling to swap for, maybe Hoffman half retained vs Beauvillier
    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 25
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    Quoting: YTSnipeCity
    Id go for Levi in Buffalo, much higher ceiling IMO. We're also not trading Matheson after one year, especially if Edmundson goes


    Sabres aren’t trading Levi, so keep dreaming
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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 28
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    We just keep Comtois and bet on him working and regaining form with our new HC next season
    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 47
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    Quoting: slapshot723
    Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

    Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?


    for colorado's second but not their early 2nd this year
    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 47
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    We just keep Comtois and bet on him working and regaining form with our new HC next season


    rip Dallas Eakins
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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 56
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    Quoting: stephane_robidas
    rip Dallas Eakins


    Looking forward to him being gone
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    12 janv. 2023 à 14 h 59
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    Quoting: slapshot723
    Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

    Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?


    Pageau has not been great, mediocre is more accurate , but he has enough value to return a 3rd or 4th rd pick
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 21
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    Quoting: slapshot723
    Pageau has been great lately. We're not cap dumping him.

    Would MTL do Armia, Montembeault, and a 2nd for Beauvillier in the off-season?


    The islanders aren’t trading Beau for a guy who isn’t half the player Cal Clutterbuck was in his prime.
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    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 24
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    Pageau has not been great, mediocre is more accurate , but he has enough value to return a 3rd or 4th rd pick


    He’s been fine, but he has to stop throwing the puck away. This whole team picked up bad habits under trotz. Bailey was much better against Dallas imo because he wasn’t just throwing the puck away the entire game.
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 25
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Fair enough for Pageau, I should have done a post on the proposition only before making this AGM

    For Beauvillier, we aren't welling to give you draft pick or prospect for him
    I doubt we have wingers you would be welling to swap for, maybe Hoffman half retained vs Beauvillier


    No team is paying to dump a productive player on a reasonable contract. Pageau’s contract issues were very overstated when he came back from his wrist injury last year. I’ll be the first one to tell you that was a mistake. Hell I was worried about Pulock for no good reason. The isles would be fine rn if they had Pelech. That’s the only issue that would keep them out of the playoffs imo.
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 38
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    Matheson has looked good for us and we absolutely will not be trading him because Kent gave up a pretty big package for him and likes him. Also Isles decline, and Primeau is not an NHL calibre goalie.
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 43
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    He’s been fine, but he has to stop throwing the puck away. This whole team picked up bad habits under trotz. Bailey was much better against Dallas imo because he wasn’t just throwing the puck away the entire game.


    He gets top line minutes and has 1 even strength goal in 529 min of ice time. Not acceptable
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 45
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    He gets top line minutes and has 1 even strength goal in 529 min of ice time. Not acceptable


    You mean Bailey right? I agree his play isn’t acceptable.
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 45
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    You mean Bailey right? I agree his play isn’t acceptable.


    Pageau lol. Bailey has been awful, Pageau has been mediocre
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 47
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    Quoting: rosenj
    Matheson has looked good for us and we absolutely will not be trading him because Kent gave up a pretty big package for him and likes him. Also Isles decline, and Primeau is not an NHL calibre goalie.


    Petry and Poehling for Matheson and a fourth was an absolute steal by Montreal. Not sure if it reflects well on Hughes or it’s just about how bad Hextall is tho lol. Montreal is in a weird spot cause they’ve done well in the late rounds recently, but their past first round picks have been kinda suspect. Slafkovsky might’ve been a reach and Mallioux isn’t even allowed to play rn. I like Mesar tho!
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 48
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    Pageau lol. Bailey has been awful, Pageau has been mediocre


    Oh I see. I didn’t think he got top line minutes tbh. I think his best game this year was in Calgary when Barzal was out. He played way more freely with the puck then, and when Barzal plays he gets this idea his only role is defensive.
    12 janv. 2023 à 15 h 51
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    Pageau lol. Bailey has been awful, Pageau has been mediocre


    I feel like most of the bottom six acts like they don’t know what to do with the puck once they get it, and it’s because trotz only used them in a defensive role during his time on the island. In part it was because they didn’t have the talent too back then.
    12 janv. 2023 à 16 h 9
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    Quoting: rosenj
    Matheson has looked good for us and we absolutely will not be trading him because Kent gave up a pretty big package for him and likes him. Also Isles decline, and Primeau is not an NHL calibre goalie.


    Petry and Matheson were both cap dumps
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    12 janv. 2023 à 19 h 8
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    Would think the caps would still prefer to bring Orlov back, but don't hate that move from their perspective at all if other things don't go their way
     
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