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Combination of Ideas

Créé par: MNHockey19
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 11 janv. 2023
Publié: 11 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I saw some of these ideas on the forum, wanted to combine them and give the team a look
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Boeser, Brock (3 325 000 $ retained)
  2. Horvat, Bo (2 750 000 $ retained)
VAN
  1. Hartman, Ryan
  2. Öhgren, Liam
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
2.
MIN
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Gudas, Radko (1 000 000 $ retained)
FLA
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
2024
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
2025
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $80 981 921 $0 $682 500 $1 518 079 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 325 000 $3 325 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
4 425 000 $4 425 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
825 000 $825 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
787 500 $787 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 2

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11 janv. 2023 à 15 h 8
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I hate this team
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Canucks accept
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11 janv. 2023 à 15 h 13
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And then the Wild suck for the next 10 years…
11 janv. 2023 à 15 h 15
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I don’t see the Canucks retaining on Boeser, at least that much. Part of the reason they want to move him is to make cap space
11 janv. 2023 à 15 h 18
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Great... now try to pay Boldy, Addison, and Gustavsson this offseason.

You can't.
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11 janv. 2023 à 15 h 21
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I don’t see the Canucks retaining on Boeser, at least that much. Part of the reason they want to move him is to make cap space


For this package we would. Once we blow it up it's gonna be draft picks and caps space will be plentiful.
11 janv. 2023 à 15 h 25
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For this package we would. Once we blow it up it's gonna be draft picks and caps space will be plentiful.


I’d definitely consider it, I’d just want to retain less. Wouldn’t want to retain more than 1.65M personally
11 janv. 2023 à 17 h 6
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Great... now try to pay Boldy, Addison, and Gustavsson this offseason.

You can't.



This was my attempt to https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3855892
11 janv. 2023 à 17 h 7
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And then the Wild suck for the next 10 years…


I don't think trading away picks and one prospect is going to tank that much. There's still a lot of depth in the prospect pool that would survive the hit here
11 janv. 2023 à 17 h 8
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I don't think trading away picks and one prospect is going to tank that much. There's still a lot of depth in the prospect pool that would survive the hit here


Also, this was the attempt for the cap squeeze next year in this situation https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3855892
11 janv. 2023 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: BigShoots
For this package we would. Once we blow it up it's gonna be draft picks and caps space will be plentiful.

If you’re gonna blow it up, I would pay a ton for Elias Pettersson (the better one).
11 janv. 2023 à 21 h 20
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Quoting: Digitalbooya06
If you’re gonna blow it up, I would pay a ton for Elias Pettersson (the better one).


I'm literally so frustrated with this organization I would almost consider that. He'd be the last guy I'd trade and I probably wouldn't end up doing it but I might for a massive package. Give me an idea of what you'd pay for him just for fun.
11 janv. 2023 à 21 h 21
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I’d definitely consider it, I’d just want to retain less. Wouldn’t want to retain more than 1.65M personally


I don't think cap space will be an issue in a rebuild is all.
11 janv. 2023 à 21 h 55
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I don't think trading away picks and one prospect is going to tank that much. There's still a lot of depth in the prospect pool that would survive the hit here


The Wild are not good enough to go all in on a rental like this.
12 janv. 2023 à 9 h 59
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The Wild are not good enough to go all in on a rental like this.


There's only two rentals here in the 4 players that they are getting between the trades, but idk if you want to count Gudas too much
12 janv. 2023 à 10 h 49
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I'm literally so frustrated with this organization I would almost consider that. He'd be the last guy I'd trade and I probably wouldn't end up doing it but I might for a massive package. Give me an idea of what you'd pay for him just for fun.


Using the Jack Eichel trade as some form of base (recent mid 1st rounder+good young player+1st+2nd)

Ohgren+Addison+1st+2nd

From there I’d have some cap going back like Greenway and/or Middleton
12 janv. 2023 à 12 h 51
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Using the Jack Eichel trade as some form of base (recent mid 1st rounder+good young player+1st+2nd)

Ohgren+Addison+1st+2nd

From there I’d have some cap going back like Greenway and/or Middleton


Ya you see that isn't that enticing. And I'd argue Pettersson should have more value than Eichel given he is young, makes less money, Eichel was an injury concern, Pettersson better defensively etc.

I'd think it'd have to start with Boldy (Tuch) + Ohgren (Krebs) + 1st + 2nd + Greenway (cap)

You need at least one proven young player.
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 59
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Ya you see that isn't that enticing. And I'd argue Pettersson should have more value than Eichel given he is young, makes less money, Eichel was an injury concern, Pettersson better defensively etc.

I'd think it'd have to start with Boldy (Tuch) + Ohgren (Krebs) + 1st + 2nd + Greenway (cap)

You need at least one proven young player.


That was Addison in my proposal. 22 year RHD. Leads all rookie defenders with 21 points in 39 games.

He’s going to be the guy moving up next year and handling some of the stuff Dumba (pending UFA) has been doing.

Definitely not going to consider trading Boldy. He was nearly ppg last season as a 20 year old rookie coming back from injury later in the season. This year he is playing on an island with Gaudreau and a mix of AHLers/4th liners (and most recently Hartman has returned). If Fiala was still here, they’d both be over ppg. How that is comparable to Tuch at 24 with 33 points in 55 games is certainly something.

Boldy+Ohgren+1st+2nd+Greenway is an insane package. I’d shoot for a better center that wins at least 50% of their faceoffs if I’m offering that.
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12 janv. 2023 à 17 h 49
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That was Addison in my proposal. 22 year RHD. Leads all rookie defenders with 21 points in 39 games.

He’s going to be the guy moving up next year and handling some of the stuff Dumba (pending UFA) has been doing.

Definitely not going to consider trading Boldy. He was nearly ppg last season as a 20 year old rookie coming back from injury later in the season. This year he is playing on an island with Gaudreau and a mix of AHLers/4th liners (and most recently Hartman has returned). If Fiala was still here, they’d both be over ppg. How that is comparable to Tuch at 24 with 33 points in 55 games is certainly something.

Boldy+Ohgren+1st+2nd+Greenway is an insane package. I’d shoot for a better center that wins at least 50% of their faceoffs if I’m offering that.


Addison is a 22 yr old, undersized, rookie whos been given the perfect opportunity to be a PP QB. He's playing third pair minutes for a reason. Maybe you have a higher opinion (what do you think he'll become?) but I don't really see him becoming a top 3 dman.

Boldy has a slightly better pedigree than Tuch did I'll give you that. I will say anyone who watched Tuch consistently could see despite him being on the 3rd line in Vegas he was going to be a top line winger. He was the best player on the team on any given night.

It's a big offer no doubt but you are getting a guaranteed all star level center in his prime yrs. Who's better than Pettersson honestly? That's even remotely available that is? He has a better PPG than Kaprizov.

I can't think of a single player. In terms of value as a Center here are some names ahead of him McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Jack Hughes, Tage, Barkov, then youre into the Pettersson group.

Think of it from the Canucks perspective. You are trading an all star center, who is likely a top 5 MVP vote guy in the next few yrs for a good young player in Boldy and two mid to late 1st round picks that you are hoping are 2nd line players but no guarantees they even make the league in any meaningful way? It's a decent trade for a rebuilding team but not a homerun by any means.
 
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