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Competitive rebuild

Créé par: Isles10
Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 10 janv. 2023
Publié: 10 janv. 2023
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NYI
  1. Olausson, Oskar
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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    Future Considerations
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    1. Bailey, Josh
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
    Détails additionnels:
    The 2023 3rd is for the conditions in the Andrew Ladd trade…
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    1. Meier, Timo [Droits de RFA]
    SJS
    1. Dufour, William
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
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    Trade made at the draft (the pick is 15th overall)
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    1. Barrie, Tyson
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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      Scott Mayfield (50% at the TDL), he extends with Edmonton.
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      1. Grans, Helge
      2. Petersen, Cal (1 000 000 $ retained)
      3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
      4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
      LAK
      1. Wilde, Bode [Droits de RFA]
      Détails additionnels:
      Semyon Varlamov (50% retained at the TDL).
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      NYI
      1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
      2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
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        10 janv. 2023 à 10 h 58
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        I’d rather San Jose keep the guaranteed commodity of a 30+ goal scorer
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        10 janv. 2023 à 10 h 58
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        Big no from Colorado and even bigger no from Arizona lol.

        Down bad
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 0
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Big no from Colorado and even bigger no from Arizona lol.

        Down bad


        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?

        Bailey’s just got one year left and is owed 3.5M$ next season, I could definitely see Arizona doing that.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 1
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        Quoting: glarson17
        I’d rather San Jose keep the guaranteed commodity of a 30+ goal scorer


        Yeah but Meier doesn’t line up with Sharks at all, I mean what’s the point? Dufour could be a very good top-6 winger and the 15th pick is very valuable in this particular draft..
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 3
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        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?


        Assuming Nelson even waives for Denver, it's a Late first in a deep draft and a prospect in a very bare pool who can (in a few years) play a role on an ELC. Nelson is good but expensive and signed till he's 34 at over 5 mil aav. Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan for half the price or give Newhook another shot instead.

        Eat some salary and maybe they accept
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 4
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Big no from Colorado and even bigger no from Arizona lol.

        Down bad


        Quoting: Isles10
        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?

        Bailey’s just got one year left and is owed 3.5M$ next season, I could definitely see Arizona doing that.


        Islanders wouldn’t sell Nelson for pennies on the dollar. They also aren’t trading Dobson + for Elias Pettersson.

        Then you have to account for the fact that Arizona isn’t taking on Bailey for a third, and that isn’t enough for Meier. It just doesn’t work tbh with you.
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 5
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Yeah but Meier doesn’t line up with Sharks at all, I mean what’s the point? Dufour could be a very good top-6 winger and the 15th pick is very valuable in this particular draft..


        with that logic, if you're rebuilding then Adam Pelech doesn't really line up with NYI at all, so what's the point? Why don't you move him?
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 6
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Assuming Nelson even waives for Denver, it's a Late first in a deep draft and a prospect in a very bare pool who can (in a few years) play a role on an ELC. Nelson is good but expensive and signed till he's 34 at over 5 mil aav. Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan for half the price or give Newhook another shot instead.

        Eat some salary and maybe they accept


        ”Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan […]", lol! yeah but Nelson is twice as good and Avs window is now obviously to try and win every year. Nelson's contract is a bargain.
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 7
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        Canucks decline easily
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 7
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Assuming Nelson even waives for Denver, it's a Late first in a deep draft and a prospect in a very bare pool who can (in a few years) play a role on an ELC. Nelson is good but expensive and signed till he's 34 at over 5 mil aav. Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan for half the price or give Newhook another shot instead.

        Eat some salary and maybe they accept


        Brock Nelson is on pace for 30 goals and 76 points in 82 games. This deal is unfair to the isles not Colorado.

        Also Monahan is hurt and he isn’t half the player Nelson is. He’s not half the player Pageau is either. He is an injury risk who looks like his best days might be behind him. Look I’m rooting for him as much as the next guy, but his injury history seriously impacts his trade value.
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 8
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        Quoting: tydini11
        Canucks decline easily


        They shouldn’t. This deal would make the isles worse, not the other way around.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 8
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        with that logic, if you're rebuilding then Adam Pelech doesn't really line up with NYI at all, so what's the point? Why don't you move him?


        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        with that logic, if you're rebuilding then Adam Pelech doesn't really line up with NYI at all, so what's the point? Why don't you move him?


        ”Competitive rebuild” or a re-shape of the roster, call it what you want, Isles is way ahead of the Sharks, don’t you agree? Karlsson and Meier/Hertl is the only thing keeping Sharks from not competing for Bedard.
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 8
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        ”Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan […]", lol! yeah but Nelson is twice as good and Avs window is now obviously to try and win every year. Nelson's contract is a bargain.


        Yeah Nelson’s contract is a bargain as is the Dobson contract. So stop trying to trade either of them lol.
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 9
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        Quoting: tydini11
        Canucks decline easily


        Yeah I would decline as well from the Canucks POV, but the offer in it self is not bad..
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 10
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        Yeah Nelson’s contract is a bargain as is the Dobson contract. So stop trying to trade either of them lol.


        Haha well, if you could replace them with Pettersson and have Räty as your 3C I would do it in a heartbeat.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 10
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        Quoting: Isles10
        ”Competitive rebuild” or a re-shape of the roster, call it what you want, Isles is way ahead of the Sharks, don’t you agree? Karlsson and Meier/Hertl is the only thing keeping Sharks from not competing for Bedard.


        Vancouver isn’t trading Pettersson and NY isn’t trading Dobson. That’s the major issue with this. All your trades after that work on the assumption either team would consider it. Vancouver management probably thinks Pettersson is the best center in hockey, and the islanders know Dobson is an elite righty defenseman who isn’t worth significantly less than Pettersson.

        Trading Nelson and Dobson would be a deathblow to this roster. The new defense would get caved in, and that would be that.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 10
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        Haha well, if you could replace them with Pettersson and have Räty as your 3C I would do it in a heartbeat.


        U couldn’t. And ur defense is now one of the worst in the league.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 11
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        Haha well, if you could replace them with Pettersson and have Räty as your 3C I would do it in a heartbeat.


        Dude. You can’t trade your best puck moving d man and replace him with Tyson Barrie and Nick Jensen.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 14
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?

        Bailey’s just got one year left and is owed 3.5M$ next season, I could definitely see Arizona doing that.


        I know the Avs have a ****ty prospect pool, but Olausson isn’t a B prospect. He’s a former first rounder and arguably the best prospect in the Avs system (depending on how you feel about Behrens).
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 17
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        Quoting: tydini11
        Canucks decline easily


        islanders decline easily lol what. Islanders only consider if they take out Dobson
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 18
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        Probably a fair ask for Nelson, but the Avs can't afford to add that salary without moving someone like Girard out. I don't think they'll want to do that, and will try to add without robbing from a strength, but I could be wrong.
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        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 18
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        Vancouver isn’t trading Pettersson and NY isn’t trading Dobson. That’s the major issue with this. All your trades after that work on the assumption either team would consider it. Vancouver management probably thinks Pettersson is the best center in hockey, and the islanders know Dobson is an elite righty defenseman who isn’t worth significantly less than Pettersson.

        Trading Nelson and Dobson would be a deathblow to this roster. The new defense would get caved in, and that would be that.


        I hear you and respect your opinion but Pettersson’s been a top-10, top-5 player in the league this year and is only 24.. having him, Barzal and Räty down the middle is the makeup of a serious contender 7-10 years to come considering their age. Barrie is a very good pp-guy and gets limited ice-time 5on5 in this scenario and Pelech-Pulock is still there, Romanov will grow his game season by season, Wotherspoon looks legit, though small sample size, Jensen is a severely underrated defenseman… + they got Sorokin..

        I know the trade is highly unrealistic, because these trades never happen, but if the Canucks keep Horvat, then they would have Horvat 1C, Miller 2C and Pageau 3C + Dobson and Hughes as their cornerstone pieces, it would make both teams better imo.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 19
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        Quoting: turtlemountain
        I know the Avs have a ****ty prospect pool, but Olausson isn’t a B prospect. He’s a former first rounder and arguably the best prospect in the Avs system (depending on how you feel about Behrens).


        Just because Olausson is the Avs best prospect doesn’t make him any better compared to other prospects, he’s definitely a B-prospect.
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 19
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        Quoting: Isles10
        I hear you and respect your opinion but Pettersson’s been a top-10, top-5 player in the league this year and is only 24.. having him, Barzal and Räty down the middle is the makeup of a serious contender 7-10 years to come considering their age. Barrie is a very good pp-guy and gets limited ice-time 5on5 in this scenario and Pelech-Pulock is still there, Romanov will grow him game season by season, Wotherspoon looks legit, though small sample size, Jensen is severely underrated defenseman… + they got Sorokin..

        I know the trade is highly unrealistic, because these trades never happen, but if the Canucks keep Horvat, then they would have Horvat 1C, Miller 2C and Pageau 3C + Dobson and Hughes as their cornerstone pieces, it would make both teams better imo.


        One team would have a strong d, and one team would have strong centers. Just creates a new problem for each organization. Vancouver’s forward core is too old as it is….
        10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 20
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        Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
        islanders decline easily lol what. Islanders only consider if they take out Dobson


        Pettersson’s been a top-5 player this season at 24 yo, lol..
         
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