SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

hard for bedard

Créé par: cartersNo1
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 5 janv. 2023
Publié: 9 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3887 500 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2975 000 $
22 657 500 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
36 750 000 $
31 550 000 $
33 450 000 $
22 045 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
2.
VAN
  1. Bednar, Jan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Rasmussen, Michael
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
3.
VAN
  1. Lennox, Tristan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Salo, Robin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
NYI
    Horvat 50% retained 23 TDL
    4.
    5.
    VAN
    BUF
    1. Höglander, Nils [Droits de RFA]
    Enfoui
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2023
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de DET
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de NYR
    Logo de VAN
    2024
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    2025
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de VAN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2482 500 000 $75 450 000 $850 000 $0 $7 050 000 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Bedard, Connor
    925 000 $925 000 $
    2 045 000 $2 045 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
    1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    762 500 $762 500 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 657 500 $2 657 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    887 500 $887 500 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    975 000 $975 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    762 500 $762 500 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
    825 000 $825 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1

    Code d'intégration

    • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
    • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

    Texte intégré

    Cliquer pour surligner
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 6
    #1
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: janv. 2017
    Messages: 836
    Mentions "j'aime": 134
    Can't see Ottawa or Buffalo accepting either of those trades, and I'd have to think that Bear makes more money than that.
    Not_Isles5513, homiedaclown, sensonfire and 2 others a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 6
    #2
    Stats Are For Losers
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: nov. 2021
    Messages: 2,772
    Mentions "j'aime": 1,395
    Detroit won’t do that.
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 7
    #3
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: août 2019
    Messages: 1,668
    Mentions "j'aime": 772
    Huge No for the Sens.
    Pinto is likely going to push for someone out of the top 6 in Ottawa in a year or two and is a great two-way center.

    Ekman-Larsson is overpaid with term, leaving no money for a Debrincat extension, and he is Left shot when Sens already have Chabot and Sanderson on LD.
    Not_Isles5513, sensonfire, aedoran and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 7
    #4
    1GarthSnowFan
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: déc. 2021
    Messages: 11,738
    Mentions "j'aime": 4,799
    Rasmussen is worth significantly more than Boeser. Detroit isn’t trading him and a pick for a far inferior player on a bad deal. That Pinto deal makes less than 0 sense for the sens. Pinto is a good young player, and OEL owns a contract that is worse than Darnell Nurse’s deal.

    Islanders decline cause Horvat doesn’t fill a need. Columbus declines for the same reason in a garland deal. Buffalo accepts ur Middlestadt offfer imo.
    sensonfire et aedoran a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 8
    #5
    1GarthSnowFan
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: déc. 2021
    Messages: 11,738
    Mentions "j'aime": 4,799
    Quoting: NDoody
    Huge No for the Sens.
    Pinto is likely going to push for someone out of the top 6 in Ottawa in a year or two and is a great two-way center.

    Ekman-Larsson is overpaid with term, leaving no money for a Debrincat extension, and he is Left shot when Sens already have Chabot and Sanderson on LD.


    OEL isn’t just overpaid. He is one of the worst defenseman in the NHL even if u ignore his contract.
    sensonfire, aedoran et gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 12
    #6
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juill. 2021
    Messages: 7,136
    Mentions "j'aime": 3,156
    Hoglander- 9pts in 25 games (on pace for 30pts)
    Mittelstadt- 23pts in 37 games (on pace for 51pts)


    Why makes u think Hoglander- a winger- is more valuable than Mittelstadt, who plays the wing AND Center???
    Not_Isles5513 et aedoran a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 15
    #7
    sensonfire
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: févr. 2021
    Messages: 11,614
    Mentions "j'aime": 4,383
    Ottawa is not trading Pinto for a massive cap dump.

    And OEL is not waiving his NMC for Ottawa.

    Try again.
    aedoran et gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 18
    #8
    CEO
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: avr. 2022
    Messages: 74
    Mentions "j'aime": 33
    Sabs say hard no, I think you are severely overvaluing Hoglander.
    aedoran et gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 18
    #9
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: mars 2018
    Messages: 9,851
    Mentions "j'aime": 6,441
    I could see a draw for Columbus to make that move in the offseason if Voracek’s career is truly over and they get Bedard or another center, but as of right now it looks like Voracek is attempting to come back, so Columbus really doesn’t need another wing and would rather have the center.
    dopplsan, CBJ_Bob, SK101 and 2 others a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 19
    #10
    Future Norris guy
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: août 2022
    Messages: 14,874
    Mentions "j'aime": 8,331
    Oliver Ekman-Larsson isn't waiving for Ottawa.

    Detroit passes, Brock Boeser at full value isn't worth Rasmussen and a potential early 40's 2nd round pick.

    That joke of an offer for Bo Horvat, Is easily beaten by other teams that have far better prospects than the Islanders.
    Billy12Bob a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 19
    #11
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: sept. 2020
    Messages: 47
    Mentions "j'aime": 19
    I think you forgot to include Vancouvers 2023 1st rd pick (unprotected) in that OEL-Pinto trade!

    Easy oversight, I get it. Mistakes happen.
    Not_Isles5513 a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 19
    #12
    1GarthSnowFan
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: déc. 2021
    Messages: 11,738
    Mentions "j'aime": 4,799
    Quoting: Buffalove
    Hoglander- 9pts in 25 games (on pace for 30pts)
    Mittelstadt- 23pts in 37 games (on pace for 51pts)


    Why makes u think Hoglander- a winger- is more valuable than Mittelstadt, who plays the wing AND Center???


    Hogslander is in part a victim of Vancouver’s poor roster construction, but I agree. He’s playing his way into the Anthony Beauvillier category of wings. He has value but he can’t put it all together.
    gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 13 h 20
    #13
    1GarthSnowFan
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: déc. 2021
    Messages: 11,738
    Mentions "j'aime": 4,799
    Quoting: WhalersLogoWasTheBest
    I think you forgot to include Vancouvers 2023 1st rd pick (unprotected) in that OEL-Pinto trade!

    Easy oversight, I get it. Mistakes happen.


    And take out Pinto
    WhalersLogoWasTheBest a aimé ceci.
    9 janv. 2023 à 14 h 32
    #14
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: févr. 2022
    Messages: 3,066
    Mentions "j'aime": 2,723
    Quoting: Ajp_18
    I could see a draw for Columbus to make that move in the offseason if Voracek’s career is truly over and they get Bedard or another center, but as of right now it looks like Voracek is attempting to come back, so Columbus really doesn’t need another wing and would rather have the center.


    Can’t see them doing this with how thin they are at center. Especially if texier comes back they can get the same production for a fraction of the cost
    9 janv. 2023 à 15 h 18
    #15
    NYI
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2016
    Messages: 3,476
    Mentions "j'aime": 1,102
    I think this is a slam dunk for NYI valuewise, even if I don't think we need a center.
    9 janv. 2023 à 15 h 49
    #16
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: août 2019
    Messages: 1,668
    Mentions "j'aime": 772
    Quoting: Isles5513
    OEL isn’t just overpaid. He is one of the worst defenseman in the NHL even if u ignore his contract.


    I was trying to be nice, maybe he could bounce back, IDK what happen with him, he used to be so good.
    9 janv. 2023 à 15 h 50
    #17
    1GarthSnowFan
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: déc. 2021
    Messages: 11,738
    Mentions "j'aime": 4,799
    Quoting: NDoody
    I was trying to be nice, maybe he could bounce back, IDK what happen with him, he used to be so good.


    He is terrible and will never get back to where he was
    9 janv. 2023 à 18 h 58
    #18
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: févr. 2022
    Messages: 1,727
    Mentions "j'aime": 768
    Sens counter with Nikita Zaitsev for Bo Horvat, sign-and-trade deal at 1M for 7 years
    9 janv. 2023 à 18 h 59
    #19
    Ex Nucks fan
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2021
    Messages: 17,615
    Mentions "j'aime": 17,624
    That is just a terrible trade for Ottawa...
    9 janv. 2023 à 18 h 59
    #20
    Ex Nucks fan
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juin 2021
    Messages: 17,615
    Mentions "j'aime": 17,624
    Quoting: NDoody
    I was trying to be nice, maybe he could bounce back, IDK what happen with him, he used to be so good.


    It is called getting old
    9 janv. 2023 à 19 h 15
    #21
    Avatar de l'utilisateur
    Rejoint: juill. 2021
    Messages: 7,136
    Mentions "j'aime": 3,156
    Quoting: Isles5513
    Hogslander is in part a victim of Vancouver’s poor roster construction, but I agree. He’s playing his way into the Anthony Beauvillier category of wings. He has value but he can’t put it all together.


    I’m not trying to say he’s crap or anything
    But Mittelstadt is producing at a higher rate,
    and has a better pedigree as a top10 pick….

    So i just don’t really see the thinking that Hoglander has more value- which is why i asked
     
    Répondre
    To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
    Question:
    Options:
    Ajouter une option
    Soumettre le sondage