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Not Another Meier Blockbuster

Créé par: Tbrew
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 8 janv. 2023
Publié: 8 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Hindsight after making the deal: Feels like this is more quantity over quality. What would you all change?
Transactions
NJD
  1. Larkin, Dylan (3 050 000 $ retained)
  2. Vrána, Jakub
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Larkin Extension
DET
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Salminen, Samu [Liste de réserve]
  3. Sharangovich, Yegor
  4. Stillman, Chase
  5. Wood, Miles
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Main parts here are Shara (20 goal scorer), Stillman (former 1st rounder), and the 1st going back. Also sending the top center prospect in NJ’s pipeline (Salminen)
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8 janv. 2023 à 10 h 43
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I don’t see any reason why either team would make this move
8 janv. 2023 à 10 h 44
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Definitely quantity over quality. Need one of mercer or nemec in there i would expect.
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8 janv. 2023 à 10 h 50
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Definitely quantity over quality. Need one of mercer or nemec in there i would expect.


I don’t really think either of them would be in the discussion in that case, if it’s a move for a player than can hopefully be coaxed over to NJ in the summer
8 janv. 2023 à 11 h 1
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Quoting: Tbrew
I don’t really think either of them would be in the discussion in that case, if it’s a move for a player than can hopefully be coaxed over to NJ in the summer


That's a lot to give up for a player who you could gotten for free on waivers (Vrana) and a rental (Larkin). Silly extension talk.
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8 janv. 2023 à 11 h 20
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That's a lot to give up for a player who you could gotten for free on waivers (Vrana) and a rental (Larkin). Silly extension talk.


I mean, Dylan Larkin is still a valuable player without an extension, and him +Jack Hughes on a line would be unfair
8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 0
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Nj has the assets to get Larkin if they want but that isn't really the deal I think.
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8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 1
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Would pass on Vrana. And unless Larkin is taking 3C $$ from NJ, I don’t think he would fit either.
8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 2
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This just isn’t the right fit.
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8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 11
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Would pass on Vrana. And unless Larkin is taking 3C $$ from NJ, I don’t think he would fit either.


Play Larkin on the wing and give him top six dollars then
8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 11
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Two rentals, a player that barely manages 0.5 points per game and a finnish junior that never managed to get a single callup to Liiga in 4 years and to top it off a junior that has barely progressed in three years.

That's not going to get Larkin alone without retention.

The easiest decline this century.
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8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 19
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Two rentals, a player that barely manages 0.5 points per game and a finnish junior that never managed to get a single callup to Liiga in 4 years and to top it off a junior that has barely progressed in three years.

That's not going to get Larkin alone without retention.

The easiest decline this century.


Shara is an RFA, and this is all assuming Larkin is as good as gone anyway.
8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 22
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Play Larkin on the wing and give him top six dollars then


Would Larkin take $7-7.5 million to play wing? That would be great. But I imagine he will look for $8M+ to stay in Detroit.
8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 25
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Shara is an RFA, and this is all assuming Larkin is as good as gone anyway.


That's a very dumb assumption.
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8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 31
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Another unhinged TBrew post. I love it so much
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8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 36
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That's a very dumb assumption.


I mean, is it though? A good player leaving a team that has been disappointing would not be a new story
8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 50
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I mean, is it though? A good player leaving a team that has been disappointing would not be a new story


What do you mean disappointing? The team has a new GM, a brand new head coach and is playing better than ever since Larkin signed his first contract with the team. He's a local kid and grew up a Red Wings fan and is the team captain. We have the best prospect pool on LD in the entire league and is finally getting out of a long and deep rebuild and are about to become good again. And you think that he would want to leave at this time? That's even dumber.
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8 janv. 2023 à 12 h 54
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Two rentals, a player that barely manages 0.5 points per game and a finnish junior that never managed to get a single callup to Liiga in 4 years and to top it off a junior that has barely progressed in three years.

That's not going to get Larkin alone without retention.

The easiest decline this century.


Packed as much ignorance into one sentence as humanly possible.

1. Salminen played juniors for Jokerit.

2. Jokerit’s senior team does not play in Liiga.

3. During the time Salminen was there, they were in KHL.

4. Salminen had long been committed to play college hockey (was an early commit to Denver, later switched to UConn).

5. NCAA rules bar players who had played professionally from eligibility.

6. KHL and Liiga are both professional leagues.

7. Salminen had to preserve his amateur status by staying in junior, thus could not play in KHL or Liiga games.

8. Last year, the plan was for Salminen to play in USHL with Dubuque, but COVID put a squash on that plan. So he returned to captain Jokerit’s junior team throughout tumultuous season (senior team withdrew from KHL). He was still highest scoring drafted player in the Finnish junior league.

9. This year, he had Visa issues that delayed his arrival at UConn. To stay fit while home, he practiced with Jokerit. And eventually played 1 game (your “4th season”) before coming to USA.

10. Today, he is the 1st line Center for #9 ranked Huskies (as a Freshman).

Maybe just stay in your lane.
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8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 2
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laugh laugh A sign and trade Larkin starts with Nemec and Holtz then add accordingly. First off no way in hell Larkin agrees to move to LW. And Larkin is going to cost way more than either Hischier or Hughes on a long term deal like at least 8 x $9,000,000 if not closer to 8 x $9,500,000 there's no way Larkin is leaving Detroit for the likes of New Jersey.
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8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 6
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Would Larkin take $7-7.5 million to play wing? That would be great. But I imagine he will look for $8M+ to stay in Detroit.


No Larkin isn't taking $7-7.5 million to play wing, If he was willing to do it'd already be resigned by now. And you honestly think that Larkin takes $8M+ to stay in Detroit but less in New Jersey is totally delusional. Because none of the crap offered even comes close to getting a sign and trade Larkin it's pure crap for us.
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8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 9
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What do you mean disappointing? The team has a new GM, a brand new head coach and is playing better than ever since Larkin signed his first contract with the team. He's a local kid and grew up a Red Wings fan and is the team captain. We have the best prospect pool on LD in the entire league and is finally getting out of a long and deep rebuild and are about to become good again. And you think that he would want to leave at this time? That's even dumber.


Disappointing in that he has only made the playoffs once in his tenure with his hometown team, which was in his rookie year.
Disappointing in the fact that they are on the outside looking in for another year,despite the expectations and signings pointing to this year being the turning point.
Disappointing in the way that the team has hired the most overrated GM in the sport

An LD prospect pool is cool (granted it’s definitely carried by one player), but not very comparable to New Jersey’s defensive prospect pool. Not really sure why it’s being compared as both teams probably have an equally strong pipeline.

And yes I think he would want to leave a team that has only disappointed, even when they were supposed to be taking the next step.
8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 11
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laugh laugh A sign and trade Larkin starts with Nemec and Holtz then add accordingly. First off no way in hell Larkin agrees to move to LW. And Larkin is going to cost way more than either Hischier or Hughes on a long term deal like at least 8 x $9,000,000 if not closer to 8 x $9,500,000 there's no way Larkin is leaving Detroit for the likes of New Jersey.


That’s a pretty crazy cost when the team can just go to try and sign Larkin in the offseason for no cost at all
8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: Tbrew
I mean, Dylan Larkin is still a valuable player without an extension, and him +Jack Hughes on a line would be unfair


laugh Larkin can go to any playoff team he so chooses, Sorry but New Jersey with or without Larkin isn't a cup contender. And even a rental Larkin gets better than that. Obviously you don't know Yzerman to well this would be a total fleece job in Detroit. Larkin as a rental and Vrana are worth way more than a bunch of scraps. Detroit 100% declines.
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8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 16
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That’s a pretty crazy cost when the team can just go to try and sign Larkin in the offseason for no cost at all


You really think that Larkin would sign with New Jersey. Get real and Larkin will cost a hell of a lot more than either Hischier or Hughes by a long shot. Probably in the 8 x $9,500,000 range he sure as hell isn't taking 3C money nor cheap money to play LW if that's what you're thinking.
8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 22
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laugh Larkin can go to any playoff team he so chooses, Sorry but New Jersey with or without Larkin isn't a cup contender. And even a rental Larkin gets better than that. Obviously you don't know Yzerman to well this would be a total fleece job in Detroit. Larkin as a rental and Vrana are worth way more than a bunch of scraps. Detroit 100% declines.


That’s fine that you think that? There’s a lot to unpack there though

Rental Larkin maybe gets better than that, which is why I included the player that all 31 teams just said they did not want for free.

Yzerman is the same GM that signed Andrew Copp and Ben Chiarot to long term deals that so far are looking pretty bad, right? Same one that extended Tyler Johnson to one of the worst deals in the league a few years back too? And then there’s the whole Vrana Blockbuster trade, who was just waived and went unclaimed…I just haven’t been impressed with Yzerman. Seems like he fleeces himself pretty often.
8 janv. 2023 à 13 h 23
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You really think that Larkin would sign with New Jersey. Get real and Larkin will cost a hell of a lot more than either Hischier or Hughes by a long shot. Probably in the 8 x $9,500,000 range he sure as hell isn't taking 3C money nor cheap money to play LW if that's what you're thinking.


I didn’t say he would cost 3C money. And sure he could definitely sign in New Jersey! There are a ton of positives to the franchise!
 
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