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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #8: Vote for Jesper Bratt

17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 35
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Maybe equipment malfunction caused him to skip warmup, I’ve also seen some people throw around accusations that Provorov skipped the warmup to not wear a pride jersey ( which is purely speculative, not that he’d openly admit that anyways )


That would be f’d up IF it was
17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 41
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That would be f’d up IF it was




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17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 43
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I mean, wtf 🤬
17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 50
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Alright get this guy out of the league **** em
17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 50
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17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 51
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also the leafs won tonight because their big forward players bailed them out. has to be a first
17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 51
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You can’t even rumour mill this anymore, Torts confirmed it
17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 55
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That would be f’d up IF it was


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Alright get this guy out of the league **** em


Not getting into a full blown discussion about this but are you kidding me? He’s not allowed to have his own beliefs? He had every right not to wear a jersey supporting a certain belief he disagrees with.
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17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 57
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Not getting into a full blown discussion about this but are you kidding me? He’s not allowed to have his own beliefs? He had every right not to wear a jersey supporting a certain belief he disagrees with.


paradox of tolerance
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17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 57
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Not getting into a full blown discussion about this but are you kidding me? He’s not allowed to have his own beliefs? He had every right not to wear a jersey supporting a certain belief he disagrees with.


I mean, pride night’s about inclusivity and accepting people for what they are, it’s not just about the LGBTQ+ community
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17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 58
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No, he didn’t say that, all he did was not wear a jersey supporting a certain belief system.
17 janv. 2023 à 21 h 59
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paradox of tolerance


Exactly, this is supposed to be about tolerance but now everyone is going to be mad at Provorov and not tolerate him.
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 1
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I mean, pride night’s about inclusivity and accepting people for what they are, it’s not just about the LGBTQ+ community


Well, yes and no. Officially it’s about everyone but it’s primarily associated with the LGBTQ community
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 1
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Exactly, this is supposed to be about tolerance but now everyone is going to be mad at Provorov and not tolerate him.


i would've looked up what the paradox of tolerance means before responding.

The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.
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17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 1
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NHL should call Provarov and request an apology immediately and if he does hopefully Flyers set something up to allow him to clear the air (i.e. community service involving gay community.)



If he refuses suspend him
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 4
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League should call Provarov and request an apology immediately and if he does hopefully Flyers set something up to allow him to clear the air (i.e. community service involving gay community. )



If he refuses suspend him


He’ll probably get like a 5k fine for not participating in the team night and the NHL will move on (unless the Flyers personally decide to punish him )
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 6
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NHL should call Provarov and request an apology immediately and if he does hopefully Flyers set something up to allow him to clear the air (i.e. community service involving gay community.)



If he refuses suspend him


Absolutely not, if he is punished by the league I am boycotting the nhl.

Well ok maybe not but I will be very unhappy
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 7
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i would've looked up what the paradox of tolerance means before responding.

The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.


Yah except he wasn’t being intolerant…
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 7
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He’ll probably get like a 5k fine for not participating in the team night and the NHL will move on (unless the Flyers personally decide to punish him )


I feel your right but man League should put the hammer down. Cant be having this stuff. I hope he clears the air and apologizes and does something community driven to say I'm sorry but if he walks away with a 5k fine league's more broke than I thought. Hopefully if league does nothing (or gives just a fine) Fletcher does right and suspends him without pay until he properly apologizes.
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 7
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NHL should call Provarov and request an apology immediately and if he does hopefully Flyers set something up to allow him to clear the air (i.e. community service involving gay community.)



If he refuses suspend him


honestly i wouldn't be shocked if You Can Play or another organization will need to twist the league's arm for anything to happen. they'd be completely fine with letting it slide under the radar, even though it makes their corporate promotion of "Hockey is For Everyone" look really flimsy.
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 8
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Not getting into a full blown discussion about this but are you kidding me? He’s not allowed to have his own beliefs? He had every right not to wear a jersey supporting a certain belief he disagrees with.



Agreed this is absolutely not the forum to discuss this.

All I will say is I was raised to believe every man or woman are created equal regardless of their life choices.

So supporting life should be celebrated 🤷‍♂️
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17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 8
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Yah except he wasn’t being intolerant…


I mean, yes he was, the underlying meaning is tolerance and by not participating due to beliefs, that shows a partial intolerance
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17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 9
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LOL Martin Jones, Ryan just scored the easiest none EN goal of his career
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: mondo
honestly i wouldn't be shocked if You Can Play or another organization will need to twist the league's arm for anything to happen. they'd be completely fine with letting it slide under the radar, even though it makes their corporate promotion of "Hockey is For Everyone" look really flimsy.


Maybe, but I feel if they let this go it might have some bad consequences for sponsors. I got a feeling as HabsFan said hes gonna get fined 5k and they gonna go see we care.

I hope Flyers take it more seriously should the NHL be in a meh mood.
17 janv. 2023 à 22 h 12
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Agreed this is absolutely not the forum to discuss this.

All I will say is I was raised to believe every man or woman are created equal regardless of their life choices.

So supporting life should be celebrated 🤷‍♂️


Agreed it’s not the forum to discuss it on but I feel very strongly on this topic and I needed to put my opinion out there.

I completely agree everyone is equal. But just because someone doesn’t support the idea of LGBTQ doesn’t mean they hate LGBTQ people or see them as less than human, most of the time they just disagree with their beliefs.
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