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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #8: Vote for Jesper Bratt

16 janv. 2023 à 17 h 9
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Welp...
16 janv. 2023 à 17 h 18
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Welp...


Sucks but knowing Robertson hes gonna come back stronger like when he came back from that horrific leg injury. Would not be surprised if he bulks up again in the summer as the future Kids line's gonna be fun

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16 janv. 2023 à 17 h 30
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Rutherford Quote:
"Vancouver Canucks need 'major surgery' but not rebuild."

- Somebody please take the keys-to-the-kingdom away from this ol’ fool!
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16 janv. 2023 à 18 h 40
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Sure hope they don’t call one of these pick plays in Game 7 of the playoffs



16 janv. 2023 à 18 h 53
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8mJM-_BSqk

For anyone curious on how Boldy's extension affects Wild's future cap hit
16 janv. 2023 à 19 h 18
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Sure hope they don’t call one of these pick plays in Game 7 of the playoffs





They are both interference:
2-min for Holl, &
2 for MacK
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16 janv. 2023 à 19 h 38
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They are both interference:
2-min for Holl, &
2 for MacK


Sure, too bad only 1 got called
16 janv. 2023 à 19 h 48
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Sure, too bad only 1 got called


I involuntarily twitch every time I see this type of play.
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16 janv. 2023 à 22 h 58
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Which player is having the better individual season?

Player A:
(EVO)Even strength offense: 7
(EVD) Even strength defense: -2.9
( Off)Offense: 12
(Def) Defense: -3.8
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 8.7
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 1.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 2.8
Points/60 minutes: 4.41
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.25

Player B:
(EVO) Even strength offense: 8.3
(EVD) Even strength defense: 1.8
(Off) Offense: 11.3
(Def) Defense: 1.2
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 14.2
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 2.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 4.6
Points/60 minutes: 3.82
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.31
16 janv. 2023 à 23 h 9
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17 janv. 2023 à 0 h 46
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Funniest Thing Ive read

Good read imo, "The Finnish Pronger"
17 janv. 2023 à 0 h 46
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Which player is having the better individual season?

Player A:
(EVO)Even strength offense: 7
(EVD) Even strength defense: -2.9
( Off)Offense: 12
(Def) Defense: -3.8
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 8.7
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 1.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 2.8
Points/60 minutes: 4.41
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.25

Player B:
(EVO) Even strength offense: 8.3
(EVD) Even strength defense: 1.8
(Off) Offense: 11.3
(Def) Defense: 1.2
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 14.2
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 2.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 4.6
Points/60 minutes: 3.82
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.31


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and A
17 janv. 2023 à 1 h 2
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
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and A


Curious to why you say A
17 janv. 2023 à 6 h 25
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Curious to why you say A


Because it feels like a obvious bait lol
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17 janv. 2023 à 6 h 44
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Quoting: Juiceman
Which player is having the better individual season?

Player A:
(EVO)Even strength offense: 7
(EVD) Even strength defense: -2.9
( Off)Offense: 12
(Def) Defense: -3.8
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 8.7
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 1.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 2.8
Points/60 minutes: 4.41
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.25

Player B:
(EVO) Even strength offense: 8.3
(EVD) Even strength defense: 1.8
(Off) Offense: 11.3
(Def) Defense: 1.2
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 14.2
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 2.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 4.6
Points/60 minutes: 3.82
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.31


B, but you aren't factoring ice time and Strength of Competition here. Can also factor in where he starts his shifts and who his teammates are.
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17 janv. 2023 à 8 h 37
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Quoting: Juiceman
Which player is having the better individual season?

Player A:
(EVO)Even strength offense: 7
(EVD) Even strength defense: -2.9
( Off)Offense: 12
(Def) Defense: -3.8
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 8.7
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 1.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 2.8
Points/60 minutes: 4.41
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.25

Player B:
(EVO) Even strength offense: 8.3
(EVD) Even strength defense: 1.8
(Off) Offense: 11.3
(Def) Defense: 1.2
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 14.2
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 2.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 4.6
Points/60 minutes: 3.82
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.31


Problem with these is they usually are bait, we still don’t have full context either, if player A plays 25 min/game while player B plays 15/game im probably taking player A, if player A is on a god awful team, those defence numbers could misrepresent his defensive abilities, etc
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17 janv. 2023 à 8 h 57
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Bobcat’s Post Game Notes, Game 43

Jackets lose, 3-1 against the New York Rangers

-After Saturday’s win, and the return of El Capitan, we should come out swinging and (at the very least) keep up with a playoff contender in the Rags tonight. Watch us return to the status quo now that I said this…

-Jaroslav Halak starts again tonight for New York. We’ve yet to suffer the agony of shooting against Igor Shestyorkin this year. Let’s hope we don’t have to.

-I have been screaming about Rosie, Patty and Johnny as our first line since Game 1. Last game, it seemed to work like gangbusters. I expect some more good stuff tonight…

-An early power play for us: Rosie gets a rush, and gets hooked from behind by Vinny Trocheck. Off to the power play we go!

-We got our chances, but ultimately don’t register an SOG (although we got a goal mouth scramble). The PP ends with Emil Bemstrom bobbling a pass and giving the Rangers a breakaway. Luckily, Elvis shuts that down.

-This game has looked chippy so far. Lots of checks on both sides. It feels AWESOME to have players that aren’t afraid to hit.

-…oh dear. Ryan Lindgren gets stapled to the boards by Mathieu Olivier, and he’s favoring his head as he gets escorted off. Ollie’s gone for boarding. It’s never good to see a player hurt. Let’s hope it’s not a concussion…

-That penalty gets killed off. We even got a rush the other way in the middle of it. The PK has improved a slight bit.

-Two penalties within ten seconds of each other: Nick Blankenburg hooks Jake Leschyshyn (wait, he left Vegas?), and then Alexis Lafrieniere hooks Erik Gudbranson. 4-on-4 Hockey Time.

-Mika Zibanejad scores on a rather pedestrian shot that beats Elvis glove-side high. Perhaps we need a new lineup for 4-on-4.

-Kirill Marchenko commits interference on Barclay Goodrow, and Goodrow immediately turns around and scores on a tip-in towards the end of the first. Ouch.

-As the first ends, I can’t complain TOO much. Wish we didn’t let those goals in, but what can you do?

-Sean Kuraly hooks Filip Chytil, but that penalty gets killed off rather effortlessly.

-Literally nothing else happens in the second until 11 minutes in, when Vitali Kravtsov beats Elvis from point-blank. Why are we THIS BAD at keeping people out of our net-front?

-Jonny Brodzinski slashes Rosie as the clock winds down on the second. It says something when i can fit the entire second period into three notes. Lol.

-Finally, some life! Andrew Peeke scores a minute and a half into the third on a wrister that blows right by Halak. It's only a two score game now! Time for a comeback!

-...no. No no no no no. Not now. Not him. Vlad's down after taking a shot to the head. Why him, of all people?

-Good defensive play so far in the third. Wish we had this three goals ago...

-Wait, Gavi's back!? I thought he would have been out for the rest of the game! He's one crazy motherf*cker...

-We empty the net, and get our chances, but Jaroslav Halak shuts them all down.

-A tough loss tonight (perhaps wearing those RRs had something to do with it), but we've got Nashville next, maybe that can reverse our fortunes...
17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 6
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Quoting: Juiceman
Which player is having the better individual season?

Player A:
(EVO)Even strength offense: 7
(EVD) Even strength defense: -2.9
( Off)Offense: 12
(Def) Defense: -3.8
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 8.7
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 1.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 2.8
Points/60 minutes: 4.41
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.25

Player B:
(EVO) Even strength offense: 8.3
(EVD) Even strength defense: 1.8
(Off) Offense: 11.3
(Def) Defense: 1.2
(GAR) Goals above replacement: 14.2
(WAR) Wins above replacement: 2.4
(SPAR) Standing points above replacement: 4.6
Points/60 minutes: 3.82
5v5 points/60 minutes: 3.31


A is Tage Thompson and B is Elias Pettersson in case you guys were wondering.
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17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 19
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Problem with these is they usually are bait, we still don’t have full context either, if player A plays 25 min/game while player B plays 15/game im probably taking player A, if player A is on a god awful team, those defence numbers could misrepresent his defensive abilities, etc


Both are elite 1Cs for their respective team. It is a genuine comparison
17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 19
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B, but you aren't factoring ice time and Strength of Competition here. Can also factor in where he starts his shifts and who his teammates are.


Should clarify that both are 1C
17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 21
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Problem with these is they usually are bait, we still don’t have full context either, if player A plays 25 min/game while player B plays 15/game im probably taking player A, if player A is on a god awful team, those defence numbers could misrepresent his defensive abilities, etc


More context: player A is on a better team than player B. Both have similar ice time and both are 1C for their respective teams
17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 22
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Should clarify that both are 1C


That honestly doesn't help much. Do they both start their shifts in the same zone? Both offensive players or is one a defensive forward? Linemates? What kind of system do they play in? I honestly hate comparing players like this because you really can't.
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17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 22
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More context: player A is on a better team than player B. Both have similar ice time and both are 1C for their respective teams


I'd have to say player B then, but we still need more context lol.
17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 25
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That honestly doesn't help much. Do they both start their shifts in the same zone? Both offensive players or is one a defensive forward? Linemates? What kind of system do they play in? I honestly hate comparing players like this because you really can't.


If I say too much, it makes it obvious who the players are which I’m avoiding so there is no bias towards either one. Player A starts more shifts in the offensive zone whereas player B starts more in the defensive zone (relative to each other). Overal player A is on a better team, however it is arguable who has better linemates. Player A has 6 more points than player B in the same amount of games
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17 janv. 2023 à 10 h 27
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If I say too much, it makes it obvious who the players are which I’m avoiding so there is no bias towards either one. Player A starts more shifts in the offensive zone whereas player B starts more in the defensive zone (relative to each other). Overal player A is on a better team, however it is arguable who has better linemates. Player A has 6 more points than player B in the same amount of games


I'm going to say player B is the better player then.
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