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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #8: Vote for Jesper Bratt

9 janv. 2023 à 21 h 17
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I think my eyes would really love if the Habs could not be one of the worst teams in the league, tanking makes so much sense but watching 2 years of this sh*t is hard


I’d also be thankful that your favourite team is tanking when there is an opportunity to get a generational talent. It doesn’t always work out that way. Take last year for example
9 janv. 2023 à 21 h 24
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I think my eyes would really love if the Habs could not be one of the worst teams in the league, tanking makes so much sense but watching 2 years of this sh*t is hard


A few years of sh*t is better than a decade+ of mediocrity.
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9 janv. 2023 à 21 h 45
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/20-impactful-nhl-trade-candidates-youll-hear-about-before-the-deadline/

Interesting list

The one surprising name is Provarov
9 janv. 2023 à 21 h 51
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Remember McCann would have been on Matthews and Marner's wing

Bratt had 26 goals and 45 assists for 73 points resulting in a 5.45mill x 1 year.

If McCann stayed in Toronto and was playing with Matthews and Marner he would have pushed or achieved 70+ points. When he was in SEA he had 50 points in 74 games which was one of the reasons he signs for 5mill x 5 years. With 70+ points and being an RFA a Bratt deal was a real possibility for McCann should he want to stay as lets say after playing with Matthews and Marner McCann has 30 goals and 45 assists. U really think hes going sure I will sign 5mill x 5 years no. He will either go one year bridge or be traded. Now sure we could have traded the rights but as mentioned before it would have been a rental basis and while we could have got a pick around the 2nd round range.

So in the end it was just not do able. Unless Dubas decided the big 4 werent the guys then there was no real path to keeping him without weakening another area. Either way they are 3rd in the NHL without him so they are good



at the time Mccann signed his contract (March 8th, 50 games into the season) he had 21 goals in 50 games which was a 34 goal pace - youre implying that he signed after the season.

I never said he would have signed 5 x 5 with Toronto, but a 1 x 4-4.5 mill was extremely likely - and Toronto needed someone like him. A two way sniper, the leafs do not have anyone like that on lw.

It could have been the difference last season against Tampa
9 janv. 2023 à 23 h 2
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I think my eyes would really love if the Habs could not be one of the worst teams in the league, tanking makes so much sense but watching 2 years of this sh*t is hard


Try being a Canucks fan. They suck and they aren't even trying to be bad
9 janv. 2023 à 23 h 17
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at the time Mccann signed his contract (March 8th, 50 games into the season) he had 21 goals in 50 games which was a 34 goal pace - youre implying that he signed after the season.

I never said he would have signed 5 x 5 with Toronto, but a 1 x 4-4.5 mill was extremely likely - and Toronto needed someone like him. A two way sniper, the leafs do not have anyone like that on lw.

It could have been the difference last season against Tampa


Or how about not resigning Rielly 🤷‍♂️
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9 janv. 2023 à 23 h 42
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Modifié 9 janv. 2023 à 23 h 50
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Or how about not resigning Rielly 🤷‍♂️


That would have been the worst thing for us. U dont let the guy whose been here the longest and who wants to stay go.

Rielly has been here through thick and thin and honestly should have been the Captain of this team.

Article highlights this best for yah

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/maple-leafs-morgan-rielly-undeserving-of-polarizing-response-to-recent-struggles-194758417.html
9 janv. 2023 à 23 h 56
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Modifié 10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 4
Kings management should get up off their ass and trade for Chycrun he makes so much sense for them rn

Move Iafallo to create the cap room then go trade for Chycrun
10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 12
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Danault vs. JP was not a fight I would have expected

But got to give Dan credit never seen a hockey player beat a Bison King before
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10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 14
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That would have been the worst thing for us. U dont let the guy whose been here the longest and who wants to stay go.

Rielly has been here through thick and thin and honestly should have been the Captain of this team.

Article highlights this best for yah

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/maple-leafs-morgan-rielly-undeserving-of-polarizing-response-to-recent-struggles-194758417.html


If there was a world where the Leafs could have kept McCann(26) for 5 years a 5aav over Rielly(28) for the next 8 years at 7.5aav

I’m taking McCann every day of the week. I would have thought the guy who has suggested playing Rielly at LW would have thought the same
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10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 19
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Too bad Jake Evans isn't a top 6 guy, he'd be an amazing captain.
I hate that you have to be good nowadays to be captain. The criteria, should be to always be tenacious.
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10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 21
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Too bad Jake Evans isn't a top 6 guy, he'd be an amazing captain.
I hate that you have to be good nowadays to be captain. The criteria, should be to always be tenacious.


Worse players are often expendable, and therefore are more likely to move around
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10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 24
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If there was a world where the Leafs could have kept McCann(26) for 5 years a 5aav over Rielly(28) for the next 8 years at 7.5aav

I’m taking McCann every day of the week. I would have thought the guy who has suggested playing Rielly at LW would have thought the same


Really only did that as we struggled offensively at times and more recently to keep Timmins in but now that things are stable just have Holl in the press box as we can just go. Rielly at LW basically would have allowed us to use all our good Dman also would have saved us assets but since our defense improved and with new names popping up on potential TDL lists no need

Rielly-Brodie
Gio-Liligren
Sandin-Timmins

Holl can rotate in on B2B or against the Oilers

And in terms of McCann vs Rielly would rather keep the guy whose been with us through thick and thin. As Rielly has been the longest serving Leaf and u dont give that up for someone we can get via FA. And as mentioned countless times McCann would have never signed 5mill x 5 years here. With Matthews and Marner he would have commanded more. But in general Rielly's been a long time leaf and arguably is their true Captain, has flaws but what hockey player doesnt and u dont just go hey great 11 years but we moving on bye. We did it with Kadri and look what happened.

McCann would have been nice but we can do better as this TDL gonna have some nice names that we can now have along with Rielly thanks to LTIR.
10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 28
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Too bad Jake Evans isn't a top 6 guy, he'd be an amazing captain.
I hate that you have to be good nowadays to be captain. The criteria, should be to always be tenacious.


Evans does not really scream Captain material. Still surprised Gallagher didnt get it
10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 33
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Hard to believe Edmonton might be missing out on the playoffs.
Good luck resigning mcdavid and draisaitl if this continues ..
10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 35
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Hard to believe Edmonton might be missing out on the playoffs.
Good luck resigning mcdavid and draisaitl if this continues ..


Honestly Hollands lucky they done in 2026 and 2027 imagine if this was their contract year and they missed

The fanbase's panic and potential riots if they would leave would rival the Van riots back in the 2011 playoffs. Like Holland's life would be in jeopardy and he would need to get the **** out of Edmonton
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10 janv. 2023 à 0 h 57
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Oilers should give Campbell time off to gain back his confidence and find himself

As it stands rn this man cant even stop a beachball

Also Holland should start getting more serious with his Dman talks. His team needs a 2nd pair Top 4 LD
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10 janv. 2023 à 5 h 57
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I think my eyes would really love if the Habs could not be one of the worst teams in the league, tanking makes so much sense but watching 2 years of this sh*t is hard


That's why I'm an Oilers fan... doesn't help though, they suck too.
10 janv. 2023 à 5 h 58
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A few years of sh*t is better than a decade+ of mediocrity.


Buddy's acting like we haven't been watching 10+ years of **** hockey
10 janv. 2023 à 5 h 59
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Evans does not really scream Captain material. Still surprised Gallagher didnt get it


Imagine Gallagher being captain right now. Overpaid bottom 6 winger, the scrutiny would only be 10x worse. Thank God it wasn't Gallagher.
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10 janv. 2023 à 11 h 47
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Maybe tolvanen shouldn't have been buried on the 4th line every time he made a mistake



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10 janv. 2023 à 14 h 13
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Per Friedman, it looks like Patrick Kane is done for the year. So much for trading him at the TD
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10 janv. 2023 à 14 h 24
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Per Friedman, it looks like Patrick Kane is done for the year. So much for trading him at the TD


I don't wish injuries onto players, but I can't help to feel a little happy about the Blackhawks having to do without the massive futures package trading Kane would've gotten them.
FcuK that franchise.
10 janv. 2023 à 14 h 28
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I don't wish injuries onto players, but I can't help to feel a little happy about the Blackhawks having to do without the massive futures package trading Kane would've gotten them.
FcuK that franchise.


I'm just hoping they don't win the draft lottery. I really don't want to have to root for them to win (cause of Bedard)
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10 janv. 2023 à 14 h 46
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A preemptive congratulations to Principal Skinner on the birth of his young'n!
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