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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #8: Vote for Jesper Bratt

7 janv. 2023 à 20 h 43
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I have no idea all I know is Bunting was the only guy called


Did Bunting retaliate to that 2nd guy? that guy should've got a penalty hands down though.
7 janv. 2023 à 20 h 44
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Did Bunting retaliate to that 2nd guy? that guy should've got a penalty hands down though.


No he was headlocked when the camera went back so what could he even do lul

And I believe that guy is Rasmussen
7 janv. 2023 à 20 h 48
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Still not over the Canucks trading him + a 2nd for Gudbranson…


Pens and leafs letting him go is worse
7 janv. 2023 à 20 h 49
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Every week that goes by Dylan Cozens gets more expensive . Hes not going to take less than Tage because he’s at a different point in his career. Will probably take 8 mill to get him locked up long term.
7 janv. 2023 à 21 h 2
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Pens and leafs letting him go is worse


He would have been a rental in Toronto as 5mill would not have been doable for us

Ironically Kerfoot that year rewarded us with 51 points and if he could have replicated it nobody would have batted an eye. But hey if we turn Kerfoot into someone better at the TDL who cares

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7 janv. 2023 à 21 h 10
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Anyone notice how Detroits coach looks like Gru
7 janv. 2023 à 21 h 49
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He would have been a rental in Toronto as 5mill would not have been doable for us

Ironically Kerfoot that year rewarded us with 51 points and if he could have replicated it nobody would have batted an eye. But hey if we turn Kerfoot into someone better at the TDL who cares

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Toronto could have signed him to a 4 mill x 2 contract and traded Kerfoot. Mccann is about 3x the player Kerfoot is
7 janv. 2023 à 21 h 51
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Toronto could have signed him to a 4 mill x 2 contract and traded Kerfoot. Mccann is about 3x the player Kerfoot is


He would most likely want a long term deal and considering who he would have been playing with I dont think he would be in the 4mill range as with Matthews and Marner probs would be in the 6-7mill range

As if Bunting got 63 points with em McCann might have gotten around 70+
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 11
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Anyone notice how Detroits coach looks like Gru


my first impression was : he's Penguin in Batman
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7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 17
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my first impression was : he's Penguin in Batman


76pohh.jpg

Love child of Gru and Penguin

tears of joy
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7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 19
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One of the best games of the year tonight! wild vs buffalo! Just an unbelievable game to watch! Dahlin was the difference.
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 24
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He would most likely want a long term deal and considering who he would have been playing with I dont think he would be in the 4mill range as with Matthews and Marner probs would be in the 6-7mill range

As if Bunting got 63 points with em McCann might have gotten around 70+


He was under contract for the 21-22 season and halfway through he signed a 5x5. Even if you don’t think he would sign a 4 mill x 2, let’s say he went to arbitration and got 4.5 mill x 1 , then the leafs would have gotten 2 seasons of a top line sniper for nothing.
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 26
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He was under contract for the 21-22 season and halfway through he signed a 5x5. Even if you don’t think he would sign a 4 mill x 2, let’s say he went to arbitration and got 4.5 mill x 1 , then the leafs would have gotten 2 seasons of a top line sniper for nothing.


In general he would have been a rental in which no matter what it would have been to expensive. As the only reason we got cap rn is Muzzin hurt his neck mid way through the season. Dubas chose to use the cap we had on 2 goalies which has been good so far. This meant no 4.5mill forward

So McCann even at 4.5mill was not doable with a healthy Muzzin and our 2 goalies.
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 28
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In general he would have been a rental in which no matter what it would have been to expensive. As the only reason we got cap rn is Muzzin hurt his neck mid way through the season. Dubas chose to use the cap we had on 2 goalies which has been good so far. This meant no 4.5mill forward

So McCann even at 4.5mill was not doable with a healthy Muzzin and our 2 goalies.


He wouldn’t have been a rental. You wouldn’t have Kerfoot and then you didn’t have to waste 2.25 on Jarnkrok for 4 seasons
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 32
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He wouldn’t have been a rental. You wouldn’t have Kerfoot and then you didn’t have to waste 2.25 on Jarnkrok for 4 seasons


He would be a rental. If Leafs kept him we would have asked for 6mill as when u play with the Duo ur gonna wrack up points. Knowing the arbs would have gave him a Bratt deal. As mentioned before we could not afford him even if Kerfoot was gone. We would have been over the cap this season as remember only reason we got cap rn is Muzzin's on LTIR

And before he was there we barely could keep Kerfoot's 3.5mill. So McCann most likely would have been gone either not qualified or his rights would have been moved. As unless Leafs were gonna move one of the big 4 he was not doable
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 41
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He would be a rental. If Leafs kept him we would have asked for 6mill as when u play with the Duo ur gonna wrack up points. Knowing the arbs would have gave him a Bratt deal. As mentioned before we could not afford him even if Kerfoot was gone. We would have been over the cap by a Mill this season

As we barely could keep Kerfoot's 3.5mill when Muzzin was in the lineup


There’s about a 0% chance Mccann would have gotten the Bratt deal - and the fact that you’re even using McCann in the same discussion as Bratt is proving my point.

Kerfoot (3.5 mill) + Jarnkrok (2.25) = 5.75 mill. 800 k forward replaces Kerfoot and Mccann at 1 year 4.5 mill would save the leafs 450k
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 48
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BLUES lose tonight to MTL and frankly are running out (have run out?) of NHL playoff racetrack.

I think the "Bar" or "Mendosa Line" in the West right now for clubs officially-OUT come April is St. Louis and below, meaning:

^ WC Race Above ^, and below
--------line---------------
Blues
Canucks
Sharks
Coyotes
Ducks
Hawks

ALL TOGETHER NOW - FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRE!
7 janv. 2023 à 22 h 51
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Modifié 8 janv. 2023 à 0 h 54
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There’s about a 0% chance Mccann would have gotten the Bratt deal - and the fact that you’re even using McCann in the same discussion as Bratt is proving my point.

Kerfoot (3.5 mill) + Jarnkrok (2.25) = 5.75 mill. 800 k forward replaces Kerfoot and Mccann at 1 year 4.5 mill would save the leafs 450k


If McCann was playing with AM and MM he would have got a Bratt deal 100% as if he got 50 points playing with guys like Schwartz, Eberle, and Gourde with the Dynamic duo of Matthews and Marner on their record breaking season 70 + points and 30 goals would have most likely happened and there was no way he would have taken 4mill. Bratt when he got his deal had 73 points and got 5.85mill x 1 year. As if we look at Bunting he got 63 points playing with the duo. McCann who is better easily would have done better than that and would have reached 70+ points as mentioned above.

But in general as mentioned countless times there was no way they could afford him as even in your scenario If Leafs didnt have Kerfoot and Jarnkrok and kept him they wouldnt have had a legal roster as when Muzzin was there we only could fit 20 guys. And then sure we could go get another 800k guy but they dont do jack so instead of 2 guys scoring it would have been 1. As when u got 2 players doing work vs one it balances the team and as we see Kerfoot provides the defense, Jarnkrok is now providing the offense and working well with JT and Marner.

So either way it was just not doable with dubas's current plan especially at the ceiling McCann would have got with the duo. Sure we could have got a 3rd for the rights or he would have been OS'd but with how things were structured here a guy like him would have got his points and been gone in 2023. Only sure way they would be able to keep him is if Dubas went k Nylander your gone or dumped Muzzin. As honestly we were already gambling with a 20man team. Having a more expensive guy would have made Pridham's brain explode.
8 janv. 2023 à 0 h 27
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Edmunchuk.
WTF.
8 janv. 2023 à 0 h 50
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Pasta on a goal-heater lately...
just sayin Rocket'
8 janv. 2023 à 0 h 51
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Dagger.
Makar!

"Vitamin Cale"


EDIT - EDM gave up 2-key goals worthy of ECHL defense to the Mack's (MacK, MaK-ar). So bad, just not NHL good enough (esp. after the Kraken-puss meltdown of 5-unanswered) you'd think they'd lock-it-down for 60-min at least one time!!
8 janv. 2023 à 1 h 12
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Makar!

"Vitamin Cale"


EDIT - EDM gave up 2-key goals worthy of ECHL defense to the Mack's (MacK, MaK-ar). So bad, just not NHL good enough (esp. after the Kraken-puss meltdown of 5-unanswered) you'd think they'd lock-it-down for 60-min at least one time!!



How can I make this about the Leafs?

EDM has now blown four of the last five two-goal leads they've had in the third period at home.
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8 janv. 2023 à 1 h 18
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Dagger.
Makar!

"Vitamin Cale"


EDIT - EDM gave up 2-key goals worthy of ECHL defense to the Mack's (MacK, MaK-ar). So bad, just not NHL good enough (esp. after the Kraken-puss meltdown of 5-unanswered) you'd think they'd lock-it-down for 60-min at least one time!!


And with that defense comes nurse who is somehow making more than Makar
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8 janv. 2023 à 1 h 21
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How can I make this about the Leafs?

EDM has now blown four of the last five two-goal leads they've had in the third period at home.


TML:
Hyman?_Barrie?_Campbell?_Ceci?

Just such a flawed club - painful to watch. At least tonight it was COL (class club). The SEA loss was brutal...

Maybe they are running a PITT circa 2015-17 playbook? The Pens had no business repeating (major IR to personnel, esp. D-Men) BUT did win because they said so (and they got playoff upsets elsewhere)!
8 janv. 2023 à 1 h 23
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And with that defense comes nurse who is somehow making more than Makar


Bouchard the other night vs SEA could not check his HAT!
It's Seattle for crying out loud!
 
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