Yes that 3rd can get you Kulikov but we have no need for Smith so that part of the trace is a no

What would you want for Lundestrom? You guys have a bunch of centers

Prospect with top 6 LW potential and a mid round pick. Young roster player stay at home defenseman with size, preferably at RD, but can also use at LD and a mid round pick.

Lundestrom plus a mid round pick for a young top 6 LW Roster player who is on the outside looking in for his organizations depth chart. (Lafeenier type guy)

Thoughts on Nylander Poulin or Lagare?

Dumoulin probably has CHI on his no trade list. We could retain on him and keep Kapanen but we can't retain on both. Unless Kane and/or toews want to stay put.

Probably no thanks to all of them imo

No, no, and no.

The Ducks really don't have any reason to trade Lundestrom yet because the depth behind him (guys like Goucher) are still years away. Nothing in San Diego at the moment to cover for injuries and all the stuff that happens in a season. In another season or more likely two this is a different conversation for sure.

Nylander has the highest ceiling from what I've seen, but is a defensive liability, effort, and injury histpry are all concerns, and he's 24 and hasn't been able to carve out a NHL roster spot.

The other two guys currently look to have middle six upside from the reports I read, though their power forward game is moderately appealing.

Can't do it as we will retain on Domi and get a much better return. Domi, Toews, Kane and if one of them stays AA. We just don't have retention slots and Domi brings a better return retained then Kap

I don't think Domi and AA's returns will be effected much by retention, but I could be wrong. If we are sending Domi out like this proposal, and taking cap back it means we don't have to retain on him. Either way, I wasn't saying this was an acceptable proposal, I was just singling out a logical fallacy in the proposal.

I think the Hawks might be able to land a 1st with Domi retained; definitely a 2nd nonetheless. AA isn't worth much more then a 3rd at best and more likely a 4th

Yeah. Depends on where the acquiring team is in the standings and if there is a market for him. But I could see someone doing it, especially with retention and/or part of a larger package.

But I could also see a scenario where no one wants to pay a 2nd for Domi. Really just depends on the market at the TDL and what teams have a fit for him.

I think a 2nd is a lock with retention. Too many teams need top 9 help, especially at center

Yeah, but the gap is so large, players are getting older, and the cap is so tight. I don't think there is any team that adds Domi and says "yep. that puts us over the top." So, why would they expend assets valuable to their future in a futile attempt to "bolster their roster". I think the market is going to be limited and that could have a significant impact on his value. At the same time, CHI has the leverage of just ending discussions if the offers don't justify the means, and if teams are serious, they'll come back to the table.

To be fair, a late 2nd is a very low probability that it even turns into a bonafide NHL player. To a team chasing the cup, adding Domi to the mix IMO is certainly worth it, but the market will dictate of course as it always varies season to season. That said, look at the Leafs as a good example who have multiple holes in their top 9 at both center or LW. Colorado is another one, albeit somewhat will be resolved through players coming off injury.

For sure. The market is unpredictable. I could see it going either way. I just think the most important thing is ensuring the best possible odds at the 1st overall pick. The rest is just gravy in my eyes. Maybe I'm just burnt out on all the arguing and speculation.

Well for certain and we should have no problem as this team is incredibly bad. I have trouble watching them at this point but still grin and bear it. I hate to see Kane go especially but you can tell half the time on the ice he's just checked out. I feel bad for him as he's obviously incredible talented and is tuck in purgatory right now with this team where his heart is at, but the brain will take over soon.

Yeah. I feel bad for a lot of those guys, Jones, Murphy, and McCabe for sure don't deserve to have their careers end in CHI. Jones has no value because of CHI and he is just stuck now. Not to mention Kane and Toews unceremonious likely departures from CHI after being drafted and spending 15 years with them. But, it is all Bowmans fault, from Kyle Beach, to trading young players to soon, to depleting our assets in favor of "winning now" (which we haven't done in 8 years), rather than just being patient and giving a crap about his players.

Agree..Bowman was not a good GM. He walked into a situation that handed him most of the success he was credited for and then failed to recognize when it was time to retool for a year or 2.

The Ducks have a bunch of centers, but most of them are still defensively weak, aside from Lundestrom. And I don't see much in the pipeline at defensive center depth (Gaucher?).

Whereas there is almost too much in the pipeline at LD (Zellweger, Mintyukov, Hinds and potentially Lacombe and Thrun).

I think a good target on the Penguins would be Pickering. It may be too early to tell how he pans out, but I have a feeling he could develop into a pretty defensively adept player.