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Draft day trades with approximate pick positions

Créé par: Kyle_Davidson
Équipe: 2023-24 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 30 déc. 2022
Publié: 30 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Toews gets 2.5 million in P bonuses
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
21 125 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
311 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Vancouver pick is in the [12-16 overall range]
VAN
  1. Katchouk, Boris
  2. Murphy, Connor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
Tampa Bay pick is in the [24-28 overall range]
2.
CHI
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
First round pick is in the [16-20 overall range]
EDM
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
2nd round pick is in the 33-35 range
Rachats de contrats
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de VAN
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2024
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Logo de VAN
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Logo de OTT
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Logo de CGY
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $64 497 624 $0 $1 387 500 $18 002 376 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance505 000 $$505K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Bedard, Connor
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
11 500 000 $11 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
758 333 $758 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1

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30 déc. 2022 à 18 h 6
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That Myers trade is not going to happen.
30 déc. 2022 à 18 h 11
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like that meyers trade a lot for both teams
30 déc. 2022 à 18 h 41
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Quoting: OldManRutherford
That Myers trade is not going to happen.


Probably won’t, but I’m interested to know why do you think it shouldn’t happen?
30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 9
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Probably won’t, but I’m interested to know why do you think it shouldn’t happen?


When Myers bonus is payed July 1 he is no longer a negative asset. Pretty much every source has confirmed this and that the canucks wont look to trade him til then
30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Probably won’t, but I’m interested to know why do you think it shouldn’t happen?


Quoting: BenningTruther
When Myers bonus is payed July 1 he is no longer a negative asset. Pretty much every source has confirmed this and that the canucks wont look to trade him til then


Van also isn't in a position to move down in the 1st round of a stacked draft. No way they do that.
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30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: BenningTruther
When Myers bonus is payed July 1 he is no longer a negative asset. Pretty much every source has confirmed this and that the canucks wont look to trade him til then


I definitely think his 6 million dollar cap hit could be better used on… anything else for the Canucks so I’m not sure about him not being a negative asset. In any case what about the value going to the Canucks in this scenario? Murphy is good, and cheaper, and has term.
30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 33
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Van also isn't in a position to move down in the 1st round of a stacked draft. No way they do that.


Depends on if they think they are closer to the playoffs or a rebuild. The difference between the picks isn’t that much if you consider Murphy as a step forward on defense and eventually towards the playoffs.
30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 53
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I definitely think his 6 million dollar cap hit could be better used on… anything else for the Canucks so I’m not sure about him not being a negative asset. In any case what about the value going to the Canucks in this scenario? Murphy is good, and cheaper, and has term.


Murphy isnt worth moving down 15 spots, especailly when the canucks can get an asset if they wait a week. doesnt matter if you think he is a negative asset or not, he wont be when he only makes a million bucks
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30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 55
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Quoting: BenningTruther
Murphy isnt worth moving down 15 spots, especailly when the canucks can get an asset if they wait a week. doesnt matter if you think he is a negative asset or not, he wont be when he only makes a million bucks


Cap space > real money value. If you think you are getting an asset for Myers after the draft and free agency in full swing then I think you will be disappointed.
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30 déc. 2022 à 21 h 26
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Chicago extending Kane would be terrible for their rebuild.
30 déc. 2022 à 21 h 28
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Cap space > real money value. If you think you are getting an asset for Myers after the draft and free agency in full swing then I think you will be disappointed.


i think you should do research before commenting.. all sources have said exactly the opposite to what your saying
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 22
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Quoting: BenningTruther
i think you should do research before commenting.. all sources have said exactly the opposite to what your saying


All of the sources I have seen have said the opposite of what the sources you are saying have said?

Anyways, I guarantee any “sources” you have seen are speculation at best and lies at worst. It’s impossible to predict exactly how an offseason will go and that includes player trades and perceived values.
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 39
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Cap space > real money value. If you think you are getting an asset for Myers after the draft and free agency in full swing then I think you will be disappointed.


A cap floor team would be more likely to get a guy like Myers who will bring them to the cap floor, but not actually cost the team much money.
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30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 44
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All of the sources I have seen have said the opposite of what the sources you are saying have said?

Anyways, I guarantee any “sources” you have seen are speculation at best and lies at worst. It’s impossible to predict exactly how an offseason will go and that includes player trades and perceived values.


Elliote Friedman suggested that the Canucks will have no problem with trading Myers. Obviously it isn't 100%, however it isn't like this is coming from a random Canucks fan article
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 45
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A cap floor team would be more likely to get a guy like Myers who will bring them to the cap floor, but not actually cost the team much money.


A cap floor team is more likely to leverage that cap space into more negative value for the Canucks than a team that like Meyers at 3~6 million AAV.
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A cap floor team is more likely to leverage that cap space into more negative value for the Canucks than a team that like Meyers at 3~6 million AAV.


Look around the league. Big experienced RHD are valuable. Size is way overrated, however GMs still value it. An NHL GM willingly gave Erik Gudbranson 4.5 million dollars a year
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30 déc. 2022 à 23 h 42
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Quoting: Juiceman
Elliote Friedman suggested that the Canucks will have no problem with trading Myers. Obviously it isn't 100%, however it isn't like this is coming from a random Canucks fan article


Drance and Dahliwal also spoke to the same thing as friedman a week or so ago. And Travis Hamonic got a 3rd because hes a southpaw lol. Myers is a better dman, less term, less actual money. cap floor teams will be all over him not to mention any team looking for RHD help since there are never any on the market. Dave Savard also fetched a first not to long ago, Gudbranson got 4.5 mil. and any team who trades for him in the offseason can flip him at the deadline for more than what they payed, or the canucks can keep him til then and do it themselves, not like they have a RHD to replace his minutes anyways.

So no, the canucks absolutely will not trade down in a stacked draft to get rid of Myers
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31 déc. 2022 à 0 h 16
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Quoting: BenningTruther
Drance and Dahliwal also spoke to the same thing as friedman a week or so ago. And Travis Hamonic got a 3rd because hes a southpaw lol. Myers is a better dman, less term, less actual money. cap floor teams will be all over him not to mention any team looking for RHD help since there are never any on the market. Dave Savard also fetched a first not to long ago, Gudbranson got 4.5 mil. and any team who trades for him in the offseason can flip him at the deadline for more than what they payed, or the canucks can keep him til then and do it themselves, not like they have a RHD to replace his minutes anyways.

So no, the canucks absolutely will not trade down in a stacked draft to get rid of Myers


They very well may not trade down just to dump Meyers. However I doubt they get anything for him after his bonus is paid during the prime of free agency. Remember that in my proposed trade the Canucks are getting a top 4 RHD in Murphy who is cheaper, Better, and has term on his deal.
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31 déc. 2022 à 0 h 34
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
They very well may not trade down just to dump Meyers. However I doubt they get anything for him after his bonus is paid during the prime of free agency. Remember that in my proposed trade the Canucks are getting a top 4 RHD in Murphy who is cheaper, Better, and has term on his deal.


canucks have stated multiple times when adding players they want to add players 25 years old and under. While murphy may be a slight upgrade he isnt a top 4 dman on this team long term and they dump 1 year of myers for 4 more years of murphy who contract is not gonna age well. If jimbo were still here maybe he makes a deal like this to save his ass for a slight upgrade but this trade is completely against the philosophy new management has preached. If they want a stay at home RHD they can resign schenn for a third of murphys price and have better results.

Your doubt is noted, however it goes against all logic and all reports
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canucks have stated multiple times when adding players they want to add players 25 years old and under. While murphy may be a slight upgrade he isnt a top 4 dman on this team long term and they dump 1 year of myers for 4 more years of murphy who contract is not gonna age well. If jimbo were still here maybe he makes a deal like this to save his ass for a slight upgrade but this trade is completely against the philosophy new management has preached. If they want a stay at home RHD they can resign schenn for a third of murphys price and have better results.

Your doubt is noted, however it goes against all logic and all reports


Please quote this post when Meyers is traded for positive or neutral value. My doubt is rooted in common sense and reality, not just taking the opinion of Elliot Friedmans “sources” who don’t know any better than you or I what the market for a player is going to be in July.

Oh, all teams want good players 25 or under, so of course the Canucks have said they want to add that. You are also just being ridiculous when you say Murphy’s contract won’t age well and that acquiring him would be “against their philosophy”. I can respect that you don’t think the Canucks would do this trade, but you can’t convince me that any would be better served having Luke Schenn over Connor Murphy.
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31 déc. 2022 à 2 h 0
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Please quote this post when Meyers is traded for positive or neutral value. My doubt is rooted in common sense and reality, not just taking the opinion of Elliot Friedmans “sources” who don’t know any better than you or I what the market for a player is going to be in July.

Oh, all teams want good players 25 or under, so of course the Canucks have said they want to add that. You are also just being ridiculous when you say Murphy’s contract won’t age well and that acquiring him would be “against their philosophy”. I can respect that you don’t think the Canucks would do this trade, but you can’t convince me that any would be better served having Luke Schenn over Connor Murphy.


the canucks are absolutely better having luke schenn for a fraction of the price who already has chemistry with hughes and is loved in the room. doesnt change the fact that the canucks would be stupid to trade myers before july 1. and if they were to trade him it wouldnt be to lock up an aging dman whos getting payed til hes 35. not hard to see. canucks brough in young dmen like dermott, bear, stillman who are under team control. not murphy
31 déc. 2022 à 11 h 55
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lol. This idea that Myers will no longer have negative value is hilarious. Actual cash salary is certainly a consideration and will help ease the burden of moving him, but cap space is SIGNIFICANTLY more important. He will have "future considerations" or 'late round pick' value at best, and even that is a long shot. Shedding his cap hit is exponentially more valuable to VAN than acquiring him would be to any and every other team. GM's know this and will leverage it. Cap space is an asset.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Elliote Friedman suggested that the Canucks will have no problem with trading Myers. Obviously it isn't 100%, however it isn't like this is coming from a random Canucks fan article






Not sure if you saw but seems like they won’t have trouble trading myers because they are gonna buy him out.
 
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