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Créé par: MaxBorjshlapsky
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 déc. 2022
Publié: 26 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Eddie shore up this line-up with great rentals, Dubas final year let's go lease the farm!
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Gostisbehere, Shayne (2 250 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
2.
TOR
  1. Domi, Max (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Ovchinnikov, Dmitry
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. Steeves, Alex
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Horvat, Bo (2 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Timmins, Conor
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $78 061 246 $212 500 $0 $4 438 754 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 2
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
827 500 $827 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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840 630 $840 630 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
450 000 $450 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2

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26 déc. 2022 à 17 h 53
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All these trades are awful for the Leafs
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26 déc. 2022 à 17 h 54
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Ditto - just awful 😕
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26 déc. 2022 à 17 h 58
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A trio of horrid deals for the Leafs. Team is worse this year and in the future. Seems to a pattern by the author.
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26 déc. 2022 à 17 h 58
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good gravy dude, how do these keep getting worse?
None of these are even close to good for the Leafs.
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26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 3
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Canucks are only doing that if they 1st is in 2023. Then you can drop one of the 2nds you’re giving up and the 3rd from Vancouver
26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 6
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Only Toronto fans would take
Current Leafs everyday roster players : kerfoot, engvall, robertson, sandin
Over these,
New Leafs everyday roster players: horvat, bjugstad, domi, gostisbehere
Lol smh
26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 7
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Canucks are only doing that if they 1st is in 2023. Then you can drop one of the 2nds you’re giving up and the 3rd from Vancouver


I'll take it.👍
26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
Only Toronto fans would take
Current Leafs everyday roster players : kerfoot, engvall, robertson, sandin
Over these,
New Leafs everyday roster players: horvat, bjugstad, domi, gostisbehere
Lol smh


The leafs players are better with the exception of Bo for kerfoot. You've also wasted many other assets for a weaker team.
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26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 22
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lol, i just noticed both teams retaining on the same trade each on a pending UFA, what in the hell is that?
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26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 26
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And also weakened the goaltending depth (which is needed) in addition to what GenXHockey mentioned.
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26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 30
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
lol, i just noticed both teams retaining on the same trade each on a pending UFA, what in the hell is that?


Lol oh whoops I thought kerfoot had a year or 2 left, either Leafs have the piece's to get the deal done
26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 37
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Why would the Leafs trade Samsonov.
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26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 55
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Why would the Leafs trade Samsonov.


Because they have Murray and kalgren and won't be able to pay Samsonov 3 million per minimum, b) so they they can fill more needed holes in the lineup..
26 déc. 2022 à 19 h 15
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Because they have Murray and kalgren and won't be able to pay Samsonov 3 million per minimum, b) so they they can fill more needed holes in the lineup..


So they have injury prone Matt Murray and Kallgren who isn't even a backup, and you decide to move Samsonov. Nothing here makes sense. They love Murray before Samsonov. Trading Samsonov leaves a deeper hole than the one you "filled"
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26 déc. 2022 à 19 h 32
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When did Max Domi get that good to return Sandin, let alone 2 more prospects and a draft pick lol
26 déc. 2022 à 20 h 44
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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc
When did Max Domi get that good to return Sandin, let alone 2 more prospects and a draft pick lol


Sandin is only a prospect, he's not an established nhler in my opinion and Domi's a top 6 forward.. Chicago's second for a Leafs 3rd and 2 non roster prospects to sweeten the deal if sandin falls off.
26 déc. 2022 à 20 h 47
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So they have injury prone Matt Murray and Kallgren who isn't even a backup, and you decide to move Samsonov. Nothing here makes sense. They love Murray before Samsonov. Trading Samsonov leaves a deeper hole than the one you "filled"


I don't see that Samsonov is any more stable than Murray or kalgren I think Samsonov is just a recency bias, if Samsonov rides the pine all playoffs and kalgren is not in the NHL on some team and the Leafs don't have a long run then it's a waste. They have to move Samsonov or move kalgren obviously considering Murray's contract and his play so far he is their number 1.
26 déc. 2022 à 20 h 49
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You all will see, give it time, you will see😋👍
26 déc. 2022 à 20 h 51
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I don't see that Samsonov is any more stable than Murray or kalgren I think Samsonov is just a recency bias, if Samsonov rides the pine all playoffs and kalgren is not in the NHL on some team and the Leafs don't have a long run then it's a waste. They have to move Samsonov or move kalgren obviously considering Murray's contract and his play so far he is their number 1.


They're keeping all three this season and likely next season. End of discussion (Samsonov has been better than Murray this season btw)
26 déc. 2022 à 21 h 27
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They're keeping all three this season and likely next season. End of discussion (Samsonov has been better than Murray this season btw)


I think Samsonov has to get at least 3.5M per year on a new contract at this point who knows what happens from now until the end of the year he could cost more than that..

I'm not disagreeing with the Leafs being very good but everyone that doesn't want to make a big move to get help doesn't realize they have no chance at a long playoff run with the current team.

Dubas will not get resigned if they don't make the conference final, if he does nothing and they make it then he will get a contract but I doubt they make the conference final because samsonov and Murray will get tired without the skaters having more help in the bottom half of the lineup they will be over worked by the end of the year.
26 déc. 2022 à 21 h 31
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
Sandin is only a prospect, he's not an established nhler in my opinion and Domi's a top 6 forward.. Chicago's second for a Leafs 3rd and 2 non roster prospects to sweeten the deal if sandin falls off.


ahh you got me honestly lol, I thought this was a serious post, good troll 9/10
26 déc. 2022 à 21 h 50
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ahh you got me honestly lol, I thought this was a serious post, good troll 9/10


Lol

Well he's played 121 games the equivalent of 1.5 full seasons, he's on the bottom pair, he's the smallest, youngest and probably lightest guy in the D group.

Hmm compared to max domi, you're right it's a hard one.
26 déc. 2022 à 21 h 53
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Quoting: GenXHockey
The leafs players are better with the exception of Bo for kerfoot. You've also wasted many other assets for a weaker team.


Horvat is looking at a 7 for 7 deal or maybe 8 for 8 next season I think kerfoot will get a 2 for 2 deal max.
26 déc. 2022 à 22 h 5
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
Lol

Well he's played 121 games the equivalent of 1.5 full seasons, he's on the bottom pair, he's the smallest, youngest and probably lightest guy in the D group.

Hmm compared to max domi, you're right it's a hard one.
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What does his size have to do with how he plays? He leads the team in hit. And you realize that if you added Domi he would be the Leafs smallest forward right? So your only thing is that hes younger than Domi? GREAT that means the Leafs likely can have him for longer. He has played 1 single AHL game in the last 3 years, dont say hes not an NHLer. He also cost controlled for another season at 1.4 million which takes him into RFA where the Leafs still have leverage over him.

But I dont know, maybe youre right and every single other person who has commented on your thread is wrong.
26 déc. 2022 à 23 h 20
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What does his size have to do with how he plays? He leads the team in hit. And you realize that if you added Domi he would be the Leafs smallest forward right? So your only thing is that hes younger than Domi? GREAT that means the Leafs likely can have him for longer. He has played 1 single AHL game in the last 3 years, dont say hes not an NHLer. He also cost controlled for another season at 1.4 million which takes him into RFA where the Leafs still have leverage over him.

But I dont know, maybe youre right and every single other person who has commented on your thread is wrong.


Ok I am shocked he leads the team in hits lol

Yeah I don't think he is as important as max domi.

I'm not really a consensus guy, I've seen large groups of people be wrong before.

Well his size seems to be a factor when defending, doesn't seem to slow anyone down, mete and Hollowell look like they are better positioned to defend and they are small.

The best skilled guys are not usually the leaders in hits, but he's not the imposing physically either.

It's my opinion and what I'm seeing measured against a group consensus and stats so everyone is probably more correct and I didn't know some of these things but this is the way I'm seeing it, crazy it might seem so I'd still like to have domi on the Leafs.

So we'll see how she goes.
 
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