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If st Louis falls out and will trade him

Créé par: BCAPP
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 déc. 2022
Publié: 26 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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For pending ufa forwards everyone is talking about Horvat, but the most appealing to me is O'Reilly.

Now I don't follow st Louis closely so if it's clear or obvious he is being resigned just tell me that and I'll move on

I also recognize they are not selling now and are close to a playoff spot. This is a hypothetical future trade if st Louis falls out
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TOR
    This is assuming it's confirmed his career is done so it's just reading an insured contract to sit on ltir. Not worth a huge amount to the Leafs but it is easier to not have players in ltir as can build cap space
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    Not Anaheim they're just first alphabetically. Some other team for depth who is in the playoffs with a bit more cap space

    I am basing this on the vatrano trade.
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    1. O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)
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    26 déc. 2022 à 15 h 52
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    Acciari is easily worth one of the thirds, so you have ROR as = to a first, a third and a B-prospect smurf. I don't think that gets it done. And then on top of that, you're asking for 50% retention. I know that the actual dollar amount is small, but still . . .
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    26 déc. 2022 à 16 h 31
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    I would be shocked if the Blues had any interest in Hirvonen.
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    26 déc. 2022 à 17 h 39
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    You don't just get Acciari for free
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    26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 30
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Acciari is easily worth one of the thirds, so you have ROR as = to a first, a third and a B-prospect smurf. I don't think that gets it done. And then on top of that, you're asking for 50% retention. I know that the actual dollar amount is small, but still . . .


    Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
    You don't just get Acciari for free


    Okay forget acciari, I'll remove him. I was just thinking of how we added a 3/4th liner in the Gio trade.

    What about now? In the ball park?
    26 déc. 2022 à 18 h 32
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    I would be shocked if the Blues had any interest in Hirvonen.


    What would the blues be interested in prospect wise? I don't know the organization at all? Obviously everyone wants talent, but like position or needs wise?
    17 févr. 2023 à 23 h 8
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    Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
    You don't just get Acciari for free


    Apparently I wasn't so far off
    1 juill. 2023 à 12 h 42
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    Apparently I wasn't so far off


    Wasn't free
    1 juill. 2023 à 14 h 15
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    Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
    Wasn't free


    The above trade was damn close to what the Leafs paid for O'Reilly and aciari. What you claimed was acciari for free
    1 juill. 2023 à 17 h 38
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    The above trade was damn close to what the Leafs paid for O'Reilly and aciari. What you claimed was acciari for free


    No. The blues got a first, second, and third, two jr players, and didn't have to retain on ROR.
    1 juill. 2023 à 17 h 56
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    No. The blues got a first, second, and third, two jr players, and didn't have to retain on ROR.


    They retained half of RO'R's contract and got an ahler (Adam Gaudette) and a junior prospect with probably equivalent or less value than Hirvonen above

    So essentially I suggest 1st, 3rd, 3rd and Hirvonen
    They got 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Abramov (and Gaudette who was a contract throw in likely).

    Essentially the difference is a third to a second. Pretty dang close.
    1 juill. 2023 à 19 h 43
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    They retained half of RO'R's contract and got an ahler (Adam Gaudette) and a junior prospect with probably equivalent or less value than Hirvonen above

    So essentially I suggest 1st, 3rd, 3rd and Hirvonen
    They got 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Abramov (and Gaudette who was a contract throw in likely).

    Essentially the difference is a third to a second. Pretty dang close.


    You are forgetting a 4th
    1 juill. 2023 à 20 h 8
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    You are forgetting a 4th


    St Louis didn't get a fourth. The fourth went to minni to retain some of the contract.

    But even so I'd still say I was shockingly close
     
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