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Créé par: n388845
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 9 déc. 2022
Publié: 25 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Look I know it's a crazy thought but if the actual plan is to buyout hayes this saves philly millions
Mtl probably would not want to get rid of arber xhekaj but to loose him and take on a little under 2 million you get kravtsov Jones a 1st 4th and 5th with blais
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Hayes, Kevin
41 785 715 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Xhekaj, Arber
Détails additionnels:
Retain 50 percent of hayes contact equalling 1785714
MTL
  1. Blais, Samuel
  2. Jones, Zachary
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Hayes, Kevin (3 571 428 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Hayes to mtl to nyr
3.
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $79 855 517 $0 $3 700 000 $2 644 483 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Hayes, Kevin
1 785 715 $1 785 715 $
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance50 000 $$50K)
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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25 déc. 2022 à 12 h 54
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Rather Keep Hayes Tbh.

The whole Buyout thing seems unlikely. I know it was reported but I really dont think Larry Brooks has much sources in Philly given Him and Torts have history of hating each others guts.

In addition, Hayes is still a decent 2C that puts up numbers. Why would Montreal recieve an absolute Haul for retaining less and Philly gets stiffed.

Xhekaj sure isnt worth that much.
25 déc. 2022 à 12 h 55
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Xhekaj stay at Montreal
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25 déc. 2022 à 13 h 12
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I tried being objective by taking Xhekaj out and asking if it do it ?
The answer was unlikely.

Then i asked if Ken Hughes history suggests he would given his many public statements on never doing this with our players let alone for another team.
It quickly became apparent he'd have no interest in helping NYR out while giving away the teams best Alexi Emelin style player when teams have to respect when he's on the ice despite being a bottom pair guy currently playing a 6th/7th Defensman role as it stands now.

MTL needs its cap the next 4 years
i just dont see the upside when we are stilll after PLD this summer
Plus according to Klingberg he woulda loved to sign in MTL and he still might this summer(as per his interview with MTL media in our first game vs ANA this season)
While i see the return is big a later 1st is the biggest upside to this deal
Jones while good is a LD that falls behind Ghule, Harris,Xhekaj,Hutson , Kovaecvic and Beaudin just ahead of Norlinder, Trudeau and Struble.

Beaudin has 6 pts in 23 NHL games to 8pts in 38 NHL games.
We got him on the cheap and since coming home to Quebec is almost a point per game player for the first time since Junior.
If we didnt just get him i could see entertaining Jones to play as first call up for LD but we got Beaudin now


Not saying the value isnt there , just that the situation vs the reward doesnt see MTL doing this deal today. 2 years ago for sure they'd have done it under Bergavin
But i doubt Hughes would ever agree
25 déc. 2022 à 13 h 30
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Rather Keep Hayes Tbh.

The whole Buyout thing seems unlikely. I know it was reported but I really dont think Larry Brooks has much sources in Philly given Him and Torts have history of hating each others guts.

In addition, Hayes is still a decent 2C that puts up numbers. Why would Montreal recieve an absolute Haul for retaining less and Philly gets stiffed.

Xhekaj sure isnt worth that much.


In the comment section for the trade it says MTL is the only team Retaining Salary.
Pretty sure at the top of the post the motivation for it is listed as PHI getting off with no salary retained and his full contract cleared.

Hayes only shot at a return is in a deal like Faksa + Khudobin for Hayes package
25 déc. 2022 à 13 h 49
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In the comment section for the trade it says MTL is the only team Retaining Salary.
Pretty sure at the top of the post the motivation for it is listed as PHI getting off with no salary retained and his full contract cleared.

Hayes only shot at a return is in a deal like Faksa + Khudobin for Hayes package


Than Why is Hayes cap hit at 1.7ish mil here??????

That's Hayes with double Retention.

I agree there would be some sort of cap dump player coming back to Philly in a trade, but in that situation Philly should still get somthing decent or the trade makes absolute no sense for us to do.

"Mtl probably would not want to get rid of arber xhekaj but to loose him and take on a little under 2 million you get kravtsov Jones a 1st 4th and 5th with blais"
25 déc. 2022 à 14 h 18
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That's 1.7x4 or 6.8 million retention by Montreal yeah don't see that happening
 
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