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new 3rd line and D help

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Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 20 déc. 2022
Publié: 20 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
lots of cap space
VAN
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
Détails additionnels:
project player with high skill and low results
2.
BUF
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
Détails additionnels:
freeing the bird to see if it can fly
EDM
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
Détails additionnels:
cheaper depth guy that responsible defensively
3.
BUF
  1. Donato, Ryan
  2. Soucy, Carson
Détails additionnels:
coming in as bottom 4 depth
and cap swap on under performer with decent defense
SEA
  1. Olofsson, Victor (2 300 000 $ retained)
  2. Pilut, Lawrence
Détails additionnels:
power play specialist with a year left at 1/2 price
decent call up d men just to replace whoever gets call up from AHL
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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20 déc. 2022 à 1 h 20
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Don’t like bringing back Myers
And idk how we're gonna free Puljujarvi with those linemates u gave him ?
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20 déc. 2022 à 1 h 33
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Olofsson isn't a power play specialist
In the Granato years specifically he has 38 goals 42 assists of which 11 are pp goals (29%) 22 pp points (28%) in 131 games
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20 déc. 2022 à 2 h 41
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Weird third line and we need to find someone better than Myers, he's terrible.
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20 déc. 2022 à 2 h 43
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Canucks accept
20 déc. 2022 à 6 h 48
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As much as I think Mitts is a blackhole right now, I wouldn't do that Vancouver trade. I dislike Myers even more
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20 déc. 2022 à 10 h 36
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As much as I think Mitts is a blackhole right now, I wouldn't do that Vancouver trade. I dislike Myers even more


To me, moving mittelstadt is almost addition by subtraction. I still wouldn't do it, I just want no part of myers near this team.
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20 déc. 2022 à 12 h 12
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so myers is the 7th d man after jok gets healthy but he is big step up from the call ups from ahl. seems minor but the 4th rounder was biggest piece in trade.
20 déc. 2022 à 12 h 15
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Don’t like bringing back Myers
And idk how we're gonna free Puljujarvi with those linemates u gave him ?


myers is improvment of fits and clague, but will be 7th guy when jok is healthy.
Pull is a mid 6er and just needs to be free of Edmonton and get some confidence playing in different system.
20 déc. 2022 à 12 h 16
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so myers is the 7th d man after jok gets healthy but he is big step up from the call ups from ahl. seems minor but the 4th rounder was biggest piece in trade.


That and the 3.5m extra Buffalo is eating
20 déc. 2022 à 13 h 32
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Quoting: jonnymc26
myers is improvment of fits and clague, but will be 7th guy when jok is healthy.
Pull is a mid 6er and just needs to be free of Edmonton and get some confidence playing in different system.


So your ideas are:

Put a $6mil guy in the 7th defenseman spot
and
Bring in a former top5 pick, & so he can be “free” - but play him with mediocrely talented linemates


Ummmmmm….. what??
26 déc. 2022 à 2 h 12
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Quoting: Buffalove
So your ideas are:

Put a $6mil guy in the 7th defenseman spot
and
Bring in a former top5 pick, & so he can be “free” - but play him with mediocrely talented linemates


Ummmmmm….. what??


20m$ cap space $ don't matter
team is consistently down a couple d men, so depth is vastly needed and that price tag means no one else can take him on.
jost was top 10 pick and danato is place holder until one of the 4x 1st rounder forwards we picked in last 2 drafts is ready.
but regardless lots of players just dont play well under certain systems. tage is a good example on what i hope for.
so umm yeah this makes team better for very low cost and without mortgaging future.
26 déc. 2022 à 2 h 19
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20m$ cap space $ don't matter
team is consistently down a couple d men, so depth is vastly needed and that price tag means no one else can take him on.
jost was top 10 pick and danato is place holder until one of the 4x 1st rounder forwards we picked in last 2 drafts is ready.
but regardless lots of players just dont play well under certain systems. tage is a good example on what i hope for.
so umm yeah this makes team better for very low cost and without mortgaging future.


It’s also massively unrealistic
No NHL team is gonna acquire (& PAY) a $6mil guy to sit the bench

And i think the 3rd line is brutal, sorry
But if you’re trying to get us better now, then make some better moves for that 3rd line- bc it’s still pretty rough
26 déc. 2022 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: Buffalove
It’s also massively unrealistic
No NHL team is gonna acquire (& PAY) a $6mil guy to sit the bench

And i think the 3rd line is brutal, sorry
But if you’re trying to get us better now, then make some better moves for that 3rd line- bc it’s still pretty rough


there is no need to get so defensive, if you want people to agree with explain your reasonings and if its valid people may agree.
why do you think Myers is so bad when he is 2nd highest min/game on Vancouver for D. clearly coach thinks he's capable enough.
what do you expect out of a 3rd line as well.
the one i put together there is hard working fast line. that's all you really need there they aren't supposed to be 50 point guys with 20 goals.
depth is the whole reason buffalo lost to canes in conference finals if your old enough to remember being down 4 of our top 6d in playoffs.
edit( myers aav is 6 but he is getting payed less, so doesn't really hurt team as much finically if that's your concern)
26 déc. 2022 à 22 h 34
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Quoting: jonnymc26
there is no need to get so defensive, if you want people to agree with explain your reasonings and if its valid people may agree.
why do you think Myers is so bad when he is 2nd highest min/game on Vancouver for D. clearly coach thinks he's capable enough.
what do you expect out of a 3rd line as well.
the one i put together there is hard working fast line. that's all you really need there they aren't supposed to be 50 point guys with 20 goals.
depth is the whole reason buffalo lost to canes in conference finals if your old enough to remember being down 4 of our top 6d in playoffs.
edit( myers aav is 6 but he is getting payed less, so doesn't really hurt team as much finically if that's your concern)


1- idc if ppl agree with me or not

2- i never said Myers was bad, BUT there is ZERO chance that the Sabres (or ANY team) trade for him to be their 7th guy. There’s other- cheaper- guys to get who are decent depth and will cost less to get

3- idk what to tell ya, i think the 3rd line looks more like a 4th line- & a good 3rd line can at least score somewhat. I don’t see your 3rd line doing much of anything- offensively or defensively- to make it stand out as anything but below average

Again, feel free to disagree, idc
And it’s fine if u don’t care that i disagree with you
We are allowed to disagree

But again, imo:
-3rd line is still garbage
-and Myers as the 7th defenseman just will not happen, period
 
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