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Équipe: 2024-25 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 18 déc. 2022
Publié: 18 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Playing the jersey # game.

$8.8 million for Mr. 88 Nylander.

$134 million for AM34.

$3.8 million for Sandin.

$3.7 million for Liljegren

Seems like fair numbers to me.

And no, I'm not paying $5.8 million for Bunting to keep up the jersey number theme.
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18 déc. 2022 à 13 h 50
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And no cup for anyone if they all demand that kind of money. If they stay, which I suspect they will, I think they'll be maybe a little bit more reasonable.
18 déc. 2022 à 13 h 55
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And no cup for anyone if they all demand that kind of money. If they stay, which I suspect they will, I think they'll be maybe a little bit more reasonable.


Well if the cap does jump up $4 million per off season than those Matthews and Nylander raises are covered.

Matthews will be the highest paid Nhl player, zero doubt in that fact.
18 déc. 2022 à 13 h 57
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Well if the cap does jump up $4 million per off season than those Matthews and Nylander raises are covered.


but then they get screwed later. Suppose JT discount = Marner raise given these valuations, how do we sustain the club? Bottom 6 is already thin unless the young guys make huge strides, and now we can't afford a new deal for any of them, or Knies. Or even Sandin/Liljegren a few years later. Team would be decimated unless there's ridiculous cap increases consistently for the next few years.
18 déc. 2022 à 13 h 58
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And no cup for anyone if they all demand that kind of money. If they stay, which I suspect they will, I think they'll be maybe a little bit more reasonable.


They won't, this guy just loves trolling the Leafs.
18 déc. 2022 à 13 h 58
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Well if the cap does jump up $4 million per off season than those Matthews and Nylander raises are covered.

Matthews will be the highest paid Nhl player, zero doubt in that fact.


He won't get more than 13.5 million. Nylander I doubt gets 10
18 déc. 2022 à 13 h 59
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They won't, this guy just loves trolling the Leafs.


its not a troll like its certainly possible. They could both get that on the open market. I just don't see it playing out quite that way but definitely conceivable.
18 déc. 2022 à 13 h 59
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I think the most likely ranges are around 13M - 15M for Matthews and 8.75 - 10.25 for Nylander. Fairly broad I know but still a lot of time for things to shake out.
18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 2
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He won't get more than 13.5 million. Nylander I doubt gets 10


Matthews will want $13.5 million in an American city. The Leafs will have to increase their offer by an extra $2 million for Matthews to want to stay in Canada.

No troll, just fact.
18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 4
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I think the most likely ranges are around 13M - 15M for Matthews and 8.75 - 10.25 for Nylander. Fairly broad I know but still a lot of time for things to shake out.


I agree... but I guess people didn't read my "fun" description of using the jersey numbers.
$1'340'340 AAV for Matthews seems ok.
$8.8 AAV for 8 years seems ok for Nylander.
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18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 5
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I agree... but I guess people didn't read my "fun" description of using the jersey numbers.

$8.8 AVV for 8 years seems ok for Nylander.


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I agree... but I guess people didn't read my "fun" description of using the jersey numbers.

$8.8 AVV for 8 years seems ok for Nylander.


fun goes out the window when you see a 17M AAV lol
18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 10
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Matthews will want $13.5 million in an American city. The Leafs will have to increase their offer by an extra $2 million for Matthews to want to stay in Canada.

No troll, just fact.


i disagree. I think Toronto is at worst on par to an American city for him. He's grown up here with the same core group of kids in Mo, Nylander and Marner, wants to win here, has cited Washington saying it takes time and they just need to get over the hump together. I don't think its lost on him the opportunity to go down as the top dog legend in arguably the biggest, most storied franchise in the sport. I don't think Toronto would have to outbid the market.

Logically speaking as well, the only team in the US that makes sense to me is LA given where teams are at and cap situations (Kopitar comes off the books same season). I think he'll either be a career Leaf or sign in AZ (assuming they are still alive) in the twilight of his career after having stayed in Toronto. I'd be shocked to see him leave to be honest. Means more to win here, we'll pay him good, he gets the best possible advertisement opportunities in hockey here, and there's really not a better ship that he can jump to in terms of chance to win.
18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 13
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i disagree. I think Toronto is at worst on par to an American city for him. He's grown up here with the same core group of kids in Mo, Nylander and Marner, wants to win here, has cited Washington saying it takes time and they just need to get over the hump together. I don't think its lost on him the opportunity to go down as the top dog legend in arguably the biggest, most storied franchise in the sport. I don't think Toronto would have to outbid the market.

Logically speaking as well, the only team in the US that makes sense to me is LA given where teams are at and cap situations (Kopitar comes off the books same season). I think he'll either be a career Leaf or sign in AZ (assuming they are still alive) in the twilight of his career after having stayed in Toronto. I'd be shocked to see him leave to be honest. Means more to win here, we'll pay him good, he gets the best possible advertisement opportunities in hockey here, and there's really not a better ship that he can jump to in terms of chance to win.


I agree he stays in Toronto (doubt he'll sign for 8 years, he'll want high value short term so he can cash in again as a early 30's UFA) but he'll get closer to $15 million than closer to $13 million.
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18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 15
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I agree he stays in Toronto (doubt he'll sign for 8 years, he'll want high value short term so he can cash in again as a early 30's UFA) but he'll get closer to $15 million than closer to $13 million.


my prediction is ~14M by roughly 5 or 6 years. Puts him at around 32 years old and some team will soak the 7 (or 8 if its TOR again) years to get a generational talent.
18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 20
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my prediction is ~14M by roughly 5 or 6 years. Puts him at around 32 years old and some team will soak the 7 (or 8 if its TOR again) years to get a generational talent.


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my prediction is ~14M by roughly 5 or 6 years. Puts him at around 32 years old and some team will soak the 7 (or 8 if its TOR again) years to get a generational talent.


If Matthews would sign for 8 years as a 27 year old, than his next UFA contract would be a 35+ yr old contract, which means a lot less. So yea, he'd want to avoid that if he was money smart, take $14 x 5 years and cash in again with a 8 year retirement contract as a 33 yr old UFA.

Than again Ovie got a $9+ million 35+ year old contract, so...
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If Matthews would sign for 8 years as a 27 year old, than his next UFA contract would be a 35+ yr old contract, which means a lot less. So yea, he'd want to avoid that if he was money smart, take $14 x 5 years and cash in again with a 8 year retirement contract as a 33 yr old UFA.

Than again Ovie got a $9+ million 35+ year old contract, so...


I think he could still get like 9 or 10 + at 35, but why do that when at 32 someone would still probably give him north of 13, especially as the cap goes up.

Or maybe he just decides to secure the bag and go 8 year, not worry about contracts and all that, and just play it safe in case of injury and stuff in a rather dangerous sport. He's set himself up for flexibility in options. Personally I'd just want to get it over with and focus on winning for 8 years while still making bank. But I'm also not in this position unfortunately lol.
18 déc. 2022 à 14 h 39
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Matthews will want $13.5 million in an American city. The Leafs will have to increase their offer by an extra $2 million for Matthews to want to stay in Canada.

No troll, just fact.


Why didn't JT need more? Why would Matthews call TO home if he didn't love staying there? No other city will give him the same endorsement opportunities or spotlight. Matthews also won't make it impossible for his team to surround him with talent. Ask for 15 and Marner or Nylander, maybe both will have to leave. He won't want that. Just knock it off with your troll facts.
18 déc. 2022 à 15 h 30
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Looks like a reasonable lineup. Not sure how if cap goes up 5.5m and then two players (Matthews and Nylander) get a combined 8m raise how the Leafs are any better. When any UFA leaves, just spend that cap on other players. It's not the end of the world.

Don't know why Matthews would demand more money for playing in Canada. Never seems to worry Raptors or Blue Jays when they sign here or even traded to Toronto from the USA, But somehow it's a fascination with some CF followers.
18 déc. 2022 à 19 h 17
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Why didn't JT need more? Why would Matthews call TO home if he didn't love staying there? No other city will give him the same endorsement opportunities or spotlight. Matthews also won't make it impossible for his team to surround him with talent. Ask for 15 and Marner or Nylander, maybe both will have to leave. He won't want that. Just knock it off with your troll facts.


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18 déc. 2022 à 19 h 19
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Looks like a reasonable lineup. Not sure how if cap goes up 5.5m and then two players (Matthews and Nylander) get a combined 8m raise how the Leafs are any better. When any UFA leaves, just spend that cap on other players. It's not the end of the world.

Don't know why Matthews would demand more money for playing in Canada. Never seems to worry Raptors or Blue Jays when they sign here or even traded to Toronto from the USA, But somehow it's a fascination with some CF followers.


Americans Gaudreau and Tkachuck wanted to get far away from Canada even though the Flames looked like a Cup contender. So Matthews being also American my point is valid.
18 déc. 2022 à 20 h 26
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Americans Gaudreau and Tkachuck wanted to get far away from Canada even though the Flames looked like a Cup contender. So Matthews being also American my point is valid.


There is diffence with Calgary when it rather "isolated city" and don't have air direct connections to US centres compared to Toronto . Gaudreau from the East Coast might have trouble remaining with any team too far west. Matthew's brother Brady had no trouble signing with the Sens. UFAs who are older and often with families like the less travel with the Eastern Conference.
In my business, a Canadian business we had trouble finding people wanting to transfer to even take promotions if meant going to Winnipeg. So while there might be some Americans wouldn't want to transfer to Canada, IMO it's more location and convenience of where the NHL franchises are located rather just Canada.
18 déc. 2022 à 21 h 15
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Americans Gaudreau and Tkachuck wanted to get far away from Canada even though the Flames looked like a Cup contender. So Matthews being also American my point is valid.


Flase, Guadreau wanted out and then Tkachuk decided he didn't want to stay if the team was going rebuild. Also Calgary is less than 10% of the city TO is. So it just isn't a valid point. But you know this and are saying what you are saying specifically to troll leaf fans. So I will no longer indulge your stupid obsession.
18 déc. 2022 à 23 h 30
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Americans Gaudreau and Tkachuck wanted to get far away from Canada even though the Flames looked like a Cup contender. So Matthews being also American my point is valid.


Toronto is a lot more similar to a big American city than Calgary to be fair. In terms of the city itself and weather, cold but not nearly as drastic as out west.
19 déc. 2022 à 13 h 26
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Flase, Guadreau wanted out and then Tkachuk decided he didn't want to stay if the team was going rebuild. Also Calgary is less than 10% of the city TO is. So it just isn't a valid point. But you know this and are saying what you are saying specifically to troll leaf fans. So I will no longer indulge your stupid obsession.


Thank you, best news I can get this week,

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