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Selling it all

Créé par: buffdaddy
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 15 déc. 2022
Publié: 15 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Iskhakov, Ruslan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional draft pick:
2023 4th RD pick goes to STL if NYI reach ECF this season
NYI
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (2 500 000 $ retained)
2.
STL
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional draft pick:
2024 4th becomes 2023 3rd (lower of their two 3rd RD picks in 2023) if TOR reaches ECF this season
TOR
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)
3.
STL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Bourgault, Xavier
  3. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
4.
STL
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
5.
STL
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Mukhamadullin, Shakir
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
6.
STL
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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Logo de EDM
Logo de NJD
Logo de OTT
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Logo de PIT
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Logo de TOR
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $75 181 667 $1 100 000 $1 100 000 $7 318 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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15 déc. 2022 à 18 h 54
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For less than three years of Buch, with UFA expiry, that's a bit pricey. Those assets are better spent on a player with term such as Meier, even if he would have a higher cap hit.
15 déc. 2022 à 18 h 59
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If you're taking Niemela, you're not getting a first for a rental
15 déc. 2022 à 19 h 3
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
For less than three years of Buch, with UFA expiry, that's a bit pricey. Those assets are better spent on a player with term such as Meier, even if he would have a higher cap hit.


NJ would be paying this price because of Buch's affordable cap hit and control. Even when Buch becomes an UFA he'll likely still be a cheaper AAV than Meier's next contract (just a guess). With all the prospects NJ has they shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on something like this.
15 déc. 2022 à 19 h 12
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Yikes, so much no thanks.
15 déc. 2022 à 19 h 15
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Quoting: Babatunde
If you're taking Niemela, you're not getting a first for a rental


1st and a good prospect has quite literally always been the going rate for a top six/top four rental at the deadline, especially when the player doesn't have control over his destination and the trading team is willing to eat half the salary.
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15 déc. 2022 à 19 h 40
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I’m not huge on Holtz or shakir, would rather just keep Buch.
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15 déc. 2022 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: STLBlues17
I’m not huge on Holtz or shakir, would rather just keep Buch.


Shakir and holtz are decent but for Buch I’d want a better defensive dman and Mercer instead
15 déc. 2022 à 19 h 42
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I’d only do the first two tbh
15 déc. 2022 à 21 h 22
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
For less than three years of Buch, with UFA expiry, that's a bit pricey. Those assets are better spent on a player with term such as Meier, even if he would have a higher cap hit.


Should be Thomas or Kyrou there at that price. Contracts are little hairy though.
16 déc. 2022 à 0 h 22
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
1st and a good prospect has quite literally always been the going rate for a top six/top four rental at the deadline, especially when the player doesn't have control over his destination and the trading team is willing to eat half the salary.


Giroux didn't get that
16 déc. 2022 à 10 h 52
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Quoting: Babatunde
Giroux didn't get that


Giroux did return a 1st, 3rd and prospect in Tippett? A Giroux trade would have cost even more if not for his NMC that limited the only team to FLA.
16 déc. 2022 à 10 h 56
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Is Barbashev not for sale? What would his price be?
16 déc. 2022 à 11 h 15
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Giroux did return a 1st, 3rd and prospect in Tippett? A Giroux trade would have cost even more if not for his NMC that limited the only team to FLA.


ROR is your captain, even though he doesn't have any clauses, I'm sure management would want to do right by the player and trade him to his preferred destination. Look at Giordano, he didn't have any clauses and he still chose his destination
16 déc. 2022 à 11 h 19
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I would say yes as NYI.
16 déc. 2022 à 11 h 23
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Quoting: Upper_Body_Injury
Is Barbashev not for sale? What would his price be?


Of all our UFA's I see Barby being the one STL may keep. In the event he's traded, I'd say a 2nd and 3rd or 4th in return. If there's a prospect STL likes from the trading team those pick(s) could change; just depends on the package back to STL.
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16 déc. 2022 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: Babatunde
ROR is your captain, even though he doesn't have any clauses, I'm sure management would want to do right by the player and trade him to his preferred destination. Look at Giordano, he didn't have any clauses and he still chose his destination


Perhaps. But if STL is selling, we need to get as much back in any return as possible. Sounds harsh, but just my perspective. Armstrong has handcuffed himself enough with all the NTC he's handed to other players. He needs to maximize return on those he can. Plus Tank and ROR would likely be traded to contenders, so it's not like we're shipping them to bottom feeders...
16 déc. 2022 à 11 h 29
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Perhaps. But if STL is selling, we need to get as much back in any return as possible. Sounds harsh, but just my perspective. Armstrong has handcuffed himself enough with all the NTC he's handed to other players. He needs to maximize return on those he can. Plus Tank and ROR would likely be traded to contenders, so it's not like we're shipping them to bottom feeders...


I would be fine with that Leafs trade if it was a 2024 first rounder over a 2023 first rounder considering the 2023 is a lot deeper
16 déc. 2022 à 13 h 39
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Quoting: Babatunde
Giroux didn't get that


Giroux had control over his destination, and still returned a very similar package of 1st+good prospect, with an over-ripe young roster player and a 3rd in place of the good prospect. I'm not sure that's a great counterpoint.

O'Reilly is younger and plays center full time, and has won the Stanley Cup before. Even if the Blues do trade him to his preferred destination, there is not a hard and fast limitation on that like there was with Giroux. And the Blues (wrongly, I think) don't seem hellbent on trading him like the Flyers did with Giroux. I would be shocked if it doesn't cost a 1st and a good prospect.
 
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