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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #7: Descending Into Madness

30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 55
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They should have taken the rangers offer last trade deadline. Chytil, lundkvist and a 1st.

They’d have their top pair RD, 2C


Yep but now they stuck with him unless theirs actually a team who will take him but I say its doubtful
30 déc. 2022 à 20 h 58
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Yep but now they stuck with him unless theirs actually a team who will take him but I say its doubtful


I can’t think of one team that would take him
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 6
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I can’t think of one team that would take him


In 2027, CF shows JT submits his 15 team No-Trade List...course he'll be scrolling out the list in his rice pudding bowl at the old folks home.
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Cheer up Canucks Militia, at least by then there's gotta be 4 or 5 new expansion clubs that need a CAP-floor piece of rancid meat @ US$8MIL-large/per...
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 19
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KK has 3 goals and 5 points in his last 5 games. Just sayin
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 29
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KK has 3 goals and 5 points in his last 5 games. Just sayin


More points than MacKinnon in the last week. Maybe that Canes fan was right. KK is ELITE
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 37
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Quoting: Db1899
I can’t think of one team that would take him


Here is a fun brain exercise. Say JT Miller was a UFA today. Yeah he has his defensive short comings, but he has been a point per game player for the past 3.5 years. As seen before in UFA, players get overpaid. 7 years is pretty long and those contracts never end well, however they are handed out quite often (Kadri, Trochek, Huberdeau, Hertl, Couturier, all of whom are 28 and older)

Very good chance that Miller would have gotten 7 years by a team. As for his AAV, 8 mil for a point per game player is kind of expected.

Overall, JT Miller is way too overhated. Yes he sucks defensively, however it is not like he was ever good defensively in the first place. Way more people are critiquing him this season than the previous 3, and the only reason is because of the contract. Contract is bad for Vancouver as it does not align with the Canucks competitive timeline, however people are hating on Miller way more than needed. I have criticized him a lot as well, however people saying that it would take multiple first round picks to dump Miller is just insane. Is Huberdeau a cap dump 30 games into the season where he is producing way less than he was last season?
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 43
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Here is a fun brain exercise. Say JT Miller was a UFA today. Yeah he has his defensive short comings, but he has been a point per game player for the past 3.5 years. As seen before in UFA, players get overpaid. 7 years is pretty long and those contracts never end well, however they are handed out quite often (Kadri, Trochek, Huberdeau, Hertl, Couturier, all of whom are 28 and older)

Very good chance that Miller would have gotten 7 years by a team. As for his AAV, 8 mil for a point per game player is kind of expected.

Overall, JT Miller is way too overhated. Yes he sucks defensively, however it is not like he was ever good defensively in the first place. Way more people are critiquing him this season than the previous 3, and the only reason is because of the contract. Contract is bad for Vancouver as it does not align with the Canucks competitive timeline, however people are hating on Miller way more than needed. I have criticized him a lot as well, however people saying that it would take multiple first round picks to dump Miller is just insane. Is Huberdeau a cap dump 30 games into the season where he is producing way less than he was last season?


He also has his offensive shortcomings at even strength. I think he would get 6.5 x 7, but with no singing bonuses.

Huberdeau is definitely a cap dump at this point. Still a top line winger, but he's a 7.5- 8 mill dollar player being paid 10.5 for the next 8 years
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 45
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Seattle needs a goalie so bad, man. Impressive that they've done as well as they have so far with what they've been getting in net.
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 46
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the fact that his team is barely hanging onto a wild card spot should get holland tried for war crimes or something
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30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 49
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Modifié 30 déc. 2022 à 23 h 15
Quoting: Db1899
He also has his offensive shortcomings at even strength. I think he would get 6.5 x 7, but with no singing bonuses.

Huberdeau is definitely a cap dump at this point. Still a top line winger, but he's a 7.5- 8 mill dollar player being paid 10.5 for the next 8 years


Is he doing poor offensively at 5v5 this season? For sure, but lets not pretend that he didn't just put up 60 even strength points last season.

JT Miller has 0.61PPG at even strength in his time in Vancouver. That translates to about 51 even strength points a season. Now add on to the fact that he is also a power play merchant, his point production is never really a concern. Obviously things aren't looking well this season, however it is hard for me to accept that his poor 30ish games this season completely erases all he has done for Vancouver in the past 3+ years he has been here. People really forgetting that he was our best player since he got to Vancouver.

Edit: I have to say that JT Miller is probably the most overhated player on Capfriendly. Ever since he signed that contract, every single person has been picking apart every little thing he does, and says. People really overreacting to Miller yelling at Delia. Yeah he probably shouldn't have done it, however I don't remember every single person losing their sh*t when Nathan MacKinnon literally went into rage mode on his own coach on the bench. That was considered "passionate" and that moment is now nothing more than comedic memory of him falling off the bench.
30 déc. 2022 à 22 h 50
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the fact that his team is barely hanging onto a wild card spot should get holland tried for war crimes or something


If things don't turn around quick, I see absolutely 0 reason why McDavid and Draisaitl would want to stay
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30 déc. 2022 à 23 h 53
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McDavid has 71 POINTS?!?!

WTF

On pace for almost 160 points
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30 déc. 2022 à 23 h 57
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McDavid has 71 POINTS?!?!

WTF

On pace for almost 160 points


Gonna get a 100 before the all star break
31 déc. 2022 à 0 h 23
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Oilers have 7 goals on 26 shots
31 déc. 2022 à 0 h 24
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the fact that his team is barely hanging onto a wild card spot should get holland tried for war crimes or something


Dubas can't put together team that makes it past the 1st round
31 déc. 2022 à 0 h 25
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Dubas can't put together team that makes it past the 1st round


Rent free
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31 déc. 2022 à 1 h 6
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Dubas can't put together team that makes it past the 1st round


Since the Oilers got McJesus, they’ve had a winning percentage of .427, .628, .476, .482, .585, .643, .634, .568, and missed the playoffs 3 times and the “qualifying playoffs”.

But yes, Leafs.
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31 déc. 2022 à 1 h 26
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Since the Oilers got McJesus, they’ve had a winning percentage of .427, .628, .476, .482, .585, .643, .634, .568, and missed the playoffs 3 times and the “qualifying playoffs”.

But yes, Leafs.


Series wins since Matthews has been in the league

Leafs-0

Oilers-3
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31 déc. 2022 à 1 h 28
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Oilers have 7 goals on 26 shots


and mind you they did it without Drai
31 déc. 2022 à 1 h 41
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Dubas can't put together team that makes it past the 1st round


Look at the divisions and it's pretty clear the roadblock one team has over the other

Oilers had the LA Kings in the first round and almost got eliminated Leafs had the 2 time defending champs Tampa and took them to 7


Be honest would the Oilers have got out of round 1 if they went up against Tampa. Based on their defense let's be honest probs would have looked like the Avs series. Meanwhile if Leafs were against LA would have been done and then it would have been a fun series Tor vs Calgary but divisions are what they are for a reason. We just got the tougher path to go through but it will make for a more convincing run which is fine
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31 déc. 2022 à 1 h 55
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Seattle needs a goalie so bad, man. Impressive that they've done as well as they have so far with what they've been getting in net.


I feel they are waiting for Dreidger and see how he does before making a trade

In general Seattle looks so much like the 2016-2018 leafs

Good forward core, avg Dcore, inconsistent goaltending

If they make a trade honestly Arizona could be interesting

Vajmelka and Chycrun could work nicely
31 déc. 2022 à 1 h 57
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Oilers have 7 goals on 26 shots


Grubauer and Jones masterclass
31 déc. 2022 à 2 h 0
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Quoting: Juiceman
If things don't turn around quick, I see absolutely 0 reason why McDavid and Draisaitl would want to stay


Mcdavid will get 20mill and stay. Draisaitl though idk Boston gonna have an opening at C for a while

Marchand-Draisaitl-Pasta sounds scary to
31 déc. 2022 à 10 h 15
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Mcdavid will get 20mill and stay. Draisaitl though idk Boston gonna have an opening at C for a while

Marchand-Draisaitl-Pasta sounds scary to


That’s expensive how are you gonna pay all three of them at once?
31 déc. 2022 à 10 h 22
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Sorry, but no notes again this game. I didn't get to catch the last Blue Jackets vs. NYI, since i was on vacation. All i know is that we lost.

The boys can't get healthy soon enough...
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