My guess is he'll come back at around 9Mx8yrs and it'll get done this summer. Somewhere in the 70-77M range on the total contract.

If Forsberg had 42 goals and made 8.5mill thats Willy's range

Hes not worth more than Forsberg rn

I'm sure it's possible to keep the 4 on the team even when you factor in $2 million raises for Matthews and Nylander, because J.T. 's next contract will probably be in the $7 million range.

The Leafs likely are "for it" next season so I don't think Nylander or Matthews will be traded. But that's a lot for the Jets to give up trading a young NHL centre especially if Schiefele and Dubois could leave as UFAs.

Might be true but you forget Nylander's agent asked for $8.5 million the first time around. Willy's agent will be asking for $10+ easily on the next one.

Most likely true, but where's the fun watching Dubas let another star player walk away in UFA without compensation ?

Well with covid lowering salaries because of the flat cap I got a feeling he got his wakeup call

As basically most of the good wings now were making between 7.75mill -8.5mill

I got a feeling hes gonna ask for 8.5m x 8 years as sure he could ask for 9.5 mill but the teams who will give him that wont be playoff teams

Players "walk away" every year. Contending teams actually trade for upcoming UFAs for a Cup knowing they can't resign those players.
Let's imagine the Leafs are in the same position as they are now in at TDL 2023...a shot to go far in the playoffs. Should the Leafs trade Nylander, Matthews and Brodie?

He'll wait and watch what kind of deal Pasta gets and ask for something similar.

I know the Leafs won't be trading Nylander as a rental, like I said, where's the fun? , to imagine what kind of return they'll get for a PPG winger in his prime.

yea I think they'll all stay tbh. Got some good ELCs on the way too with Knies, Robertson, Niemela. Only real awkward cap year would be the year where AM/WN contracts kick in but MM/JT extensions havent

Laf + Nylander retention = $7.5 million
Nylander = $6.96 million

Would probably be better to trade Nylander to NYR for Lafreniere. Laf doesn’t have arbitration rights for another year, so they could probably extend him at lower AAV.

i think they'll both be extended but in that situation I would say yes, if they both won't sign extensions. The return for Matthews and Willy at TDL would be insane and you'd set yourself up nicely to retool and still be competitive after they are gone. Sacrifice one run for the sustained competitiveness of the team.

Especially Matthews, that's not the typical rental that teams are just accepting of letting go. Both of them really.

In reality, they are going to get less than his worth just because the Leafs are probably going to be a team looking to contend and not rebuild. If they exchange him for a similar pending ufa that would be their best bet. Chances are he getd traded for a defender sooner rather than later the trade looks like a terrible one. So it won't be too fun for Leafs fans.

No need to retain, what was I thinking.

Dubas refuses to trade more top Rd picks (heck he wouldn't even trade a 5th Rd pick to get Bear when the Leafs were desperate for Dmen) so the Lafreniere for picks will never happen. Also I screwed up on the his RFA contract year, Alex is this summer, Willy is 2024 summer, so they don't line up.

Similar AAV maybe if Pastrnak is getting something in the 9s or 10s but Pastrnak will be making much more after taxes than Nylander.

It's possible that Pastrnak gets 11m+ but Nylander probably gets under 11m even in Toronto, unless he gets 100 pts.

Ask Edm fans how well the one for one trade of T. Hall for A. Larsson went.

Willy trade for a Dmen would be hard.

Boston has a long history of team friendly contracts while Dubas has a history of slight over payments. So I can see Pasta and Willy getting equal AAV.

Also pretty sure Willy changed his number to 88 to be similar to Pasta. I think Nylander has a boy crush on him.

That's exactly what would probably happen but something more like a 1 for 2 but I think the result will be the same.

The tax rate in Boston is like 44% and in Toronto it is 50%, it's going to make a difference. If Nylander gets a 10m AAV and Pastrnak 9.85m, Pastrnak is actually getting paid more. Dubas doesn't really have a history of overpayment, personally, I think he slightly overpaid only on Marner and had to overpay for Matthews. However, the rest of the guys were market value or lower than if you take into account the guys who took discounts.

What I was saying though is that if Pastrnak is getting 11m in Boston, Nylander isn't getting that without raising his production to above PPG.

I do think Lewis Gross will try to get him to sign elsewhere though. More recently, he gave Treliving a problem with Gaudreau and Dubas with Sandin. Nylander is his next biggest client, he's going to try getting him paid well.

Edit:
Just saw your edit lol.

Nylander and Pastrnak are friends, and Nylander used to be number 88 when they were on a team together when they were younger. If anyone has a crush it would be Pastrnak but I don't think that's the case. Nyander was just 29 cuz of his father probably.

As you know by my previous posts, I do not except Matthews to resign with the Leafs. I agree with you, even with Leafs are Cup contenders, maybe Matthews and Nylander do get traded at 2024 TDL.
Leafs go into 24/25 with futures and in 23m in cap by not signing Matthews and Nylander

Our opinions tend to align quite well, but where I disagree is Matthews - even if it's a short term deal, I see him re-upping. Superstar in the mecca of hockey, playing with the same core of guys he's essentially grown up with over the past 7-8 years. You can sense they really do want to win together. He knows that they have a good team and just need to get over the hump - he himself has even cited Washington as an example of that in the past.

He's not going to AZ, it's a tire fire. NYR can't really afford him - surely they'd move things around if he wanted to come but it might not be that easy. Only team that's possible is LA - Kopitar comes off the books at the same time, so that's the only team I see with an actual chance.

But I mean all the "insiders" and reporters seem to believe he'll come back, and I do too.

Just a note. Personal rate taxes isn't really factor. Players/entertainears are incorporated a as business. And unlike the USA, tax aren't based on the location where you earned the your money in Canada.

If Nylander wants to go where he going to make the most money....I assume for cap reasons, it isn't the Leafs. Could say the same for Pasternak or really most UFAs Now if they what stay with the "certainty" of playing in Toronto and Boston, they sign for less.

Jets hang up immediately if the offer starts with Perfetti

And there’s almost a 0% chance he extends there