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Trades at TDL if these teams are out

Créé par: Leafs_06
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 1 déc. 2022
Publié: 11 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
WSH
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Basically what Rakell got. Can add a B prospect if it really matters
2.
STL
  1. Anderson, Joey
  2. Simmonds, Wayne
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Early 3rd since it's OTT's

Trading Simmonds and Anderson to stay at 50 contracts. Doesn't have to be STL
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11 déc. 2022 à 10 h 8
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Idk I kinda wanna re-sign Acciari
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11 déc. 2022 à 10 h 34
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2 cap dumps and a 3rd think St.louis just resigns him
11 déc. 2022 à 10 h 40
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3796175

Posted a Sheary deal a few days ago.

See the fit on the second line. Moving a 2nd for a 3rd liner is pricey.
11 déc. 2022 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
2 cap dumps and a 3rd think St.louis just resigns him


simmonds makes 900k and anderson makes league minimum

do you know what a cap dump is?
11 déc. 2022 à 10 h 48
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
2 cap dumps and a 3rd think St.louis just resigns him


Cap dumps 💀💀💀
11 déc. 2022 à 10 h 58
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Either sheary or domi would be nice. Also acciari was allegedly of interest to Dubas in the off-season, so if St. Louis keeps sucking, u can bet he’ll go for him
11 déc. 2022 à 11 h 26
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simmonds makes 900k and anderson makes league minimum

do you know what a cap dump is?


And neither are worth 100k
11 déc. 2022 à 11 h 29
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And neither are worth 100k


you can hate on the leafs for no reason but that's not true. Both are fringe NHLers, bouncing from AHL to NHL, who are paid as such.
11 déc. 2022 à 11 h 33
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you can hate on the leafs for no reason but that's not true. Both are fringe NHLers, bouncing from AHL to NHL, who are paid as such.


I don't "HATE" on the leafs I just don't think either is a " fringe NHL" both now are fringe ECHL players Simmonds only function now really is punching someone in the face. Anderson isn't even really good for that.
11 déc. 2022 à 11 h 38
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you can hate on the leafs for no reason but that's not true. Both are fringe NHLers, bouncing from AHL to NHL, who are paid as such.


Tell me where my analysis is incorrect?
11 déc. 2022 à 11 h 45
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Tell me where my analysis is incorrect?


ok sure. Joey Anderson is a younger player who has 19 points in 21 AHL games this season (a hockeydb search before bashing players wouldn't hurt). Played on the 3rd line for the Leafs last night, and Keefe's comments were that he was so impressed that he's going to give him an extended look with the team. So, as of now, a fringe NHLer, who will probably bounce up and down from the AHL but is an option to play with the Leafs.

Simmonds is a veteran forward who, yea, is probably mostly only useful for the physical stuff now. That's primarily where his value is. He doesn't play many games for the Leafs unless it's a heavyweight team or there are many injuries. So, again, fringe NHLer - plays some games, but certainly not all.

Neither of those players have played an ECHL game in their careers.
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 0
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2 cap dumps and a 3rd think St.louis just resigns him


I said in the trade that we just needed to trade 2 players to get enough contract slots, so the players don't need to go the St. Louis. The trade is essentially an early 3rd for Acciari, which I feel like is fair considering that last year Johan Larsson got the same thing for basically the same production Acciari is on.
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11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 1
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ok sure. Joey Anderson is a younger player who has 19 points in 21 AHL games this season (a hockeydb search before bashing players wouldn't hurt). Played on the 3rd line for the Leafs last night, and Keefe's comments were that he was so impressed that he's going to give him an extended look with the team. So, as of now, a fringe NHLer, who will probably bounce up and down from the AHL but is an option to play with the Leafs.

Simmonds is a veteran forward who, yea, is probably mostly only useful for the physical stuff now. That's primarily where his value is. He doesn't play many games for the Leafs unless it's a heavyweight team or there are many injuries. So, again, fringe NHLer - plays some games, but certainly not all.

Neither of those players have played an ECHL game in their careers.


🙄Ok there talent level is still just ECHL at best have a nice life.
If you think talent wise Simmonds RIGHT NOW is more than an ECHL player you are completely delusional.
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 2
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3796175

Posted a Sheary deal a few days ago.

See the fit on the second line. Moving a 2nd for a 3rd liner is pricey.


I can see him on the 2nd line, but I don't know, Jarnkrok has looked really solid on the 2nd like. Also, last year our 3rd like was Mikheyev-Kampf-Engvall. This line worked really well and I feel like Sheary can provide the same speed and defensive capabilities we seem to be missing from Mikheyev leaving.
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 4
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🙄Ok there talent level is still just ECHL at best have a nice life.
If you think talent wise Simmonds RIGHT NOW is more than an ECHL player you are completely delusional.


you're just trolling at this point, can't argue with the logic I laid out so just calling them echl
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 5
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I said in the trade that we just needed to trade 2 players to get enough contract slots, so the players don't need to go the St. Louis. The trade is essentially an early 3rd for Acciari, which I feel like is fair considering that last year Johan Larsson got the same thing for basically the same production Acciari is on.


Personally I think St.Louis resigns him
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 7
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you're just trolling at this point, can't argue with the logic I laid out so just calling them echl


No I'm not I may be semi mistaking on Anderson,but Simonds I am absolutely correct.
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 11
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I can see him on the 2nd line, but I don't know, Jarnkrok has looked really solid on the 2nd like. Also, last year our 3rd like was Mikheyev-Kampf-Engvall. This line worked really well and I feel like Sheary can provide the same speed and defensive capabilities we seem to be missing from Mikheyev leaving.


It is about lineup flexibility!
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 12
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No I'm not I may be semi mistaking on Anderson,but Simonds I am absolutely correct.


simmonds is probably an AHL talent at this point that brings the physical aspects should we absolutely need it. He can still play in NHL games, but you'd need to have some better options ahead of him on the depth chart. He's not ECHL, he played 72 games last season. He lost his locked spot this year, that doesn't make him ECHL. Most leaf fans on here probably know i'm one of the more critical leafs fans of simmonds and have been for years. He has no business in a healthy lineup unless you desperately need to play him for 3-5 mins in a night to fight and hit. But at this point he's a depth option - you should have several players above him in the depth chart, but you can play him in the NHL.

Its also literally not possible to be a cap dump at 900k when you can bury that full amount in the AHL at no cap cost.
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 14
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simmonds is probably an AHL talent at this point that brings the physical aspects should we absolutely need it. He can still play in NHL games, but you'd need to have some better options ahead of him on the depth chart. He's not ECHL, he played 72 games last season. He lost his locked spot this year, that doesn't make him ECHL. Most leaf fans on here probably know i'm one of the more critical leafs fans of simmonds and have been for years. He has no business in a healthy lineup unless you desperately need to play him for 3-5 mins in a night to fight and hit. But at this point he's a depth option - you should have several players above him in the depth chart, but you can play him in the NHL.

Its also literally not possible to be a cap dump at 900k when you can bury that full amount in the AHL at no cap cost.


Yes he played 72 ,but you really consider those NHL CALIBER MINUTES YOU ARE DOING SO ON A HOMER BASIS!!!!!
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 17
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Yes he played 72 ,but you really consider those NHL CALIBER MINUTES YOU ARE DOING SO ON A HOMER BASIS!!!!!


I consider it fringe NHL, depth option calibre minutes. He shouldn't have been a regular last year, I agree. Should be the 15th/16th/17th ish option up front. But injuries happen, and he can step in on the 4th line if needed as a depth option that won't play all, or even many games, but is available as depth.
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 18
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simmonds is probably an AHL talent at this point that brings the physical aspects should we absolutely need it. He can still play in NHL games, but you'd need to have some better options ahead of him on the depth chart. He's not ECHL, he played 72 games last season. He lost his locked spot this year, that doesn't make him ECHL. Most leaf fans on here probably know i'm one of the more critical leafs fans of simmonds and have been for years. He has no business in a healthy lineup unless you desperately need to play him for 3-5 mins in a night to fight and hit. But at this point he's a depth option - you should have several players above him in the depth chart, but you can play him in the NHL.

Its also literally not possible to be a cap dump at 900k when you can bury that full amount in the AHL at no cap cost.


Cap/contract slot dump same F***ING S***
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 19
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Cap/contract slot dump same F***ING S***


not at all the same ****. Actually two very different things.
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 20
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not at all the same ****. Actually two very different things.


No not really they're both getting rid of unwanted (basically useless ) players. You don't dump useful players for either reason
11 déc. 2022 à 12 h 21
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No not really they're both getting rid of unwanted (basically useless ) players


except one counts against the cap? Much different, you can't honestly believe that a contract slot and cap space can be talked about interchangeably
 
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