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Josh Anderson for the 2024 28th to 32nd overall pick

Créé par: Wreckless
Équipe: 2022-23 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 10 déc. 2022
Publié: 10 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Plus a 2023 fifth round pick.
Hardly an Earth shattering price to pay.

I think this team can win. Anderson plays on your first line.
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DAL
  1. Anderson, Josh
Détails additionnels:
The Josh Anderson showcase starts right now. 10 games with Suzuki and Caufield. How many points?
MTL
  1. Gurianov, Denis
  2. Khudobin, Anton
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Stars are not qualifying Gurianov.
Khodobin saves Dallas 3.333mm against the cap.
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10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 16
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Why would they break up one of the best lines in the league to put a 3rd line caliber forward on the 1st line?
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10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 16
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At this price, I'll just keep Anderson if I'm Hughes... You are giving me 2 cap dump and a first
10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 22
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At this price, I'll just keep Anderson if I'm Hughes... You are giving me 2 cap dump and a first


Lol
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10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 24
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first is going the wrong way, again.
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10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 34
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Quoting: Korax
At this price, I'll just keep Anderson if I'm Hughes... You are giving me 2 cap dump and a first


I don’t mind keeping him at all, but he’s too valuable to a playoff roster on a contender, and I think someone will overpay. It’s possible also that there’s a Dallas prospect that Gorton really likes that makes the Habs pull the trigger.
10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 50
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you habs fans are on crack thinking Anderson is worth anything


Too many bad executives in this league to realize Anderson has a bad contract.
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10 déc. 2022 à 20 h 52
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Too many bad executives in this league to realize Anderson has a bad contract.


Troll.
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 15
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Quoting: Wreckless
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To answer you question.....How many points in the next ten games. Eight and a minus four.
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10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 17
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Troll.


A 28yo 35-point power forward who is poor defensively with a $5.5M AAV for 5 more years with a M-NTC. That's a bad contract. Call me a troll but at least I don't have an awful judgement unlike some biased fans.
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10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 25
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Quoting: bhavikp27
A 28yo 35-point power forward who is poor defensively with a $5.5M AAV for 5 more years with a M-NTC. That's a bad contract. Call me a troll but at least I don't have an awful judgement unlike some biased fans.


Ignore the guys bait and add him to your block list. Most of the most aggressively bad hab takes on this site come from this OP. Some of the others can at least be talked to.
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10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 27
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A 28yo 35-point power forward who is poor defensively with a $5.5M AAV for 5 more years with a M-NTC. That's a bad contract. Call me a troll but at least I don't have an awful judgement unlike some biased fans.


What would you have said about Chiarot last trade deadline if we were trying to trade him with a $4.75mm AAV for 4 more years with a M-NTC?
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 35
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What would you have said about Chiarot last trade deadline if we were trying to trade him with a $4.75mm AAV for 4 more years with a M-NTC?


The same thing I said about Anderson. It's a bad contract. I didn't say Canadiens wouldn't get what they want. I said giving a positive return for Anderson (or Chiarot with that contract) is a bad thing to do. Will it happen? Yes.

What should happen and what will happen are two different things.
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 39
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The same thing I said about Anderson. It's a bad contract. I didn't say Canadiens wouldn't get what they want. I said giving a positive return for Anderson (or Chiarot with that contract) is a bad thing to do. Will it happen? Yes.

What should happen and what will happen are two different things.


By definition, it can’t be considered a « bad » contract if another GM « will » pay you for it regardless of whether or not one thinks they « should. »
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 44
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By definition, it can’t be considered a « bad » contract if another GM « will » pay you for it regardless of whether or not one thinks they « should. »


With this logic, no executive has ever made a bad move.

It absolutely can. GMs take countless bad decisions every year and they aren't infaillibles.
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 55
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With this logic, no executive has ever made a bad move.

It absolutely can. GMs take countless bad decisions every year and they aren't infaillibles.


Bad contracts are those which can’t be moved. And by your own admission, that is what « will » happen for Anderson.
10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 57
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So you post this trade, get ridiculed (rightfully) in the comments for overvaluing Anderson & instead of reevaluating your valuation of him, you not only keep the same trade, but you add a 5th round pick to the return package.

Again, Dallas doesn't do this. They are much better off moving Dellandrea or Johnston up to the 2nd line than picking up a 35-point winger with $27.5M remaining on a 5-year contract. You keep bringing up the Chiarot and Lehknonen trades, but you fail to mention the most glaringly obvious difference. Both players last year were on expiring contracts. If Florida or Colorado had to pay for 4 more years of an overpriced contract, you don't see the same return (which could still be argued was an overpayment).

Montreal gave him the contract; it's their issue for AT LEAST the next 3 seasons, especially with the questions surrounding the salary cap.
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10 déc. 2022 à 21 h 59
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So you post this trade, get ridiculed (rightfully) in the comments for overvaluing Anderson & instead of reevaluating your valuation of him, you not only keep the same trade, but you add a 5th round pick to the return package.

Again, Dallas doesn't do this. They are much better off moving Dellandrea or Johnston up to the 2nd line than picking up a 35-point winger with $27.5M remaining on a 5-year contract. You keep bringing up the Chiarot and Lehknonen trades, but you fail to mention the most glaringly obvious difference. Both players last year were on expiring contracts. If Florida or Colorado had to pay for 4 more years of an overpriced contract, you don't see the same return (which could still be argued was an overpayment).

Montreal gave him the contract; it's their issue for AT LEAST the next 3 seasons, especially with the questions surrounding the salary cap.


You though Chiarot was overpaid. And then Steve Yzerman game him a 36% raise and a 4 year term. But what does he know about building a cup winner. Except when he played. Oh, and that other team he built down south too…
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 23
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Bad contracts are those which can’t be moved. And by your own admission, that is what « will » happen for Anderson.


I gave my prediction for Anderson's next 10 games on the top line as you wanted. 8 points and minus four. First game, zero points minus two.
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 26
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You though Chiarot was overpaid. And then Steve Yzerman game him a 36% raise and a 4 year term. But what does he know about building a cup winner. Except when he played. Oh, and that other team he built down south too…


Lehky also got a raise and 5 years, so his comment about both being overpaid just shows how little he understands about the value of anything other than points. There is a lot more to hockey than just putting up points! Also anyone who says Anderson sucks at defense obviously doesn't watch Habs games and are strictly going off stats they view online. Anderson is on the first wave of the 11th ranked PK unit in the league and starts almost 60% of the time in the defensive zone but he "sucks" defensively.
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 33
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You though Chiarot was overpaid. And then Steve Yzerman game him a 36% raise and a 4 year term. But what does he know about building a cup winner. Except when he played. Oh, and that other team he built down south too…


Chiarot is drastically overpaid.
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 44
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By definition, it can’t be considered a « bad » contract if another GM « will » pay you for it regardless of whether or not one thinks they « should. »


No it just means the Other GM is Stupid
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 46
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You though Chiarot was overpaid. And then Steve Yzerman game him a 36% raise and a 4 year term. But what does he know about building a cup winner. Except when he played. Oh, and that other team he built down south too…


Ohh Yzerman never pulls the trigger on the Goodrow or Coleman trades. Without a those trades TB DOESN'T GO back to back
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 48
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Anderson is a bottom 6 forward who has negative WAR xWAR and bad defensive metrics. He also costs 5.5 mil making him way overpaid.
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10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 49
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I don’t mind keeping him at all, but he’s too valuable to a playoff roster on a contender, and I think someone will overpay. It’s possible also that there’s a Dallas prospect that Gorton really likes that makes the Habs pull the trigger.


Why would be so valuable? What contender has the cap space to take on 5.5 million dollar for a bottom 6 player who is really not that good? there will be many better options at the deadline
10 déc. 2022 à 22 h 50
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What would you have said about Chiarot last trade deadline if we were trying to trade him with a $4.75mm AAV for 4 more years with a M-NTC?


Chiarot was traded along with 50% retention making his caphit only 1.75 mil. That is a lot cheaper and more valuable to a contender than a 5.5 million dollar winger...
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