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big deadline for the hawks

Équipe: 2022-23 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 7 déc. 2022
Publié: 8 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Kane, Patrick
12 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Domi, Max (1 500 000 $ retained)
2.
CHI
  1. Holmström, Simon
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
2024 2nd round pick turns into a 1st round pick if the Islanders make the Stanley Cup Finals in 2023

2023 4th round pick to Arizona to retain half of Kane's salary
NYI
  1. Kane, Patrick
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Patrick Kane ($2,650,000)
3.
CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas (1 500 000 $ retained)
4.
CHI
  1. Gurianov, Denis
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
5.
CHI
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
top 5 protected
BUF
  1. Murphy, Connor
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
6.
CHI
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Hutsko, Logan
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
FLA
    future considerations
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Frais appliqués
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    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2382 500 000 $66 814 712 $237 500 $850 000 $15 685 288 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    758 333 $758 333 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
    AD, C, AG
    UFA - 2
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    975 000 $975 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    863 333 $863 333 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    800 000 $800 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Panthers de la Floride
    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    883 750 $883 750 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    750 000 $750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    800 000 $800 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    758 333 $758 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 2

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    8 déc. 2022 à 9 h 39
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    Isles decline
    8 déc. 2022 à 9 h 40
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    Buffalo isn't trading Joker and a 1st for Murphy. Joker seems to be the whipping boy for a lot of Sabres fans recently, and he's a lot better than people want to give him credit for. He's not Dahlin, Power or Samuelsson, but he's proving himself to be a reliable 4/5. He's not just some throw in like people keep using him as, he's only 23 years old.
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    8 déc. 2022 à 9 h 46
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    I think the Islanders are really liking what Holmstrom has brought to the NHL so far. I'd like to keep him if we can.

    Would the Blackhawks do Salo and a 3rd for Domi (50%) and JMFJ?
    8 déc. 2022 à 9 h 47
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    Leafs are not taking Domi, he has scored most of his points on PP1 and he wont have a spot there.
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    8 déc. 2022 à 9 h 48
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    Quoting: Funksoljah
    Buffalo isn't trading Joker and a 1st for Murphy. Joker seems to be the whipping boy for a lot of Sabres fans recently, and he's a lot better than people want to give him credit for. He's not Dahlin, Power or Samuelsson, but he's proving himself to be a reliable 4/5. He's not just some throw in like people keep using him as, he's only 23 years old.


    I never thought Joki was negative value or anything. I'm saying his ceiling is 4/5 d man and Murphy is an upgrade. He actually has value and I think he would grow by getting more icetime on the hawks
    8 déc. 2022 à 9 h 56
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    Quoting: TheRealKyleDavidson
    I never thought Joki was negative value or anything. I'm saying his ceiling is 4/5 d man and Murphy is an upgrade. He actually has value and I think he would grow by getting more icetime on the hawks


    I don't think the difference in value between Jokiharju and Murphy is a 1st round pick personally. I like Murphy, I think he's a solid 2nd pairing Dman, but Buffalo's 1st right now would be in that 9 - 10 range. I think Murphy could garner a late 1st and a prospect, but this isn't quite that.
    8 déc. 2022 à 10 h 12
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    You might get a first for Murphy, but it will be late. The Sabres first absolutely wouldn't be on the table.
    8 déc. 2022 à 10 h 32
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    -Probably the right value for Domi, not sure if Toronto is the destination, but I could see a team popping off with a 2nd for Domi at $1.5M.

    -I'm personally of the mindset that the Isles really shouldn't be moving their '23 1st at this point - they haven't picked in the 1st round since 2019, and their prospect pipeline is pretty barren. I think Kane makes them better, obviously, but looking at the long-term health of the franchise, I don't think it makes sense to trade ANOTHER 1st rounder, especially not in this draft. Of course, I'm not an 80 year old GM with only a couple years left in the game, so maybe my views aren't as much aligned with Islanders management's. With that in mind, this is probably fair value - I will say that the Isles have enough deadline cap space that they can probably absorb Kane's contract without retention (CF has their deadline cap space as $10.8M currently) so adjust your return accordingly if you want to save that retention slot.

    -Athanasiou has been a little more disappointing (6-3-9 in 25 GP to date) so I can't see him matching Domi's return. If he keeps playing at a 30-35 point pace he's probably getting a 3rd or 4th back.

    -I'm firmly of the mindset that we don't separate hockey brothers unless we absolutely have to. This is not an "absolutely have to" case, so I refuse this on aesthetic grounds.

    -Buffalo shouldn't be trading a 1st unless it's a home run of a trade - and I don't know if Joker -> Murphy is an upgrade that meets that criteria. I think the Sabres pass on this.

    -Chicago should be all over Florida to get something for taking Hornqvist off their hands - I don't think Florida gives up a 1st but seeing as they literally can't activate Anthony Duclair without clearing cap, this is a chance to truly weaponize their cap space.
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    8 déc. 2022 à 10 h 52
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    I wouldnt trade a top 16 protected 1st and Jokiharju for Murphy.
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    8 déc. 2022 à 10 h 53
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    Sabres laugh & decline
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    8 déc. 2022 à 11 h 23
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    Sabres decline, if they are acquiring a Dman, it’s to put Bryson in the bench. Bryson is a -15 on the season, and their 7/8 Dmen are -4 each. Lybushkin is at 0, and the rest of the Sabres defense are positives. Moving Joki for Murphy wouldn’t change much, we’d still have to play Bryson. Seems like a barely better than lateral move, not worth adding a first.
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    8 déc. 2022 à 12 h 18
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    Wait what? Buffalo easy decline, huge overpayment and Joki lately looks good.
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    8 déc. 2022 à 13 h 0
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    Quoting: slapshot723
    I think the Islanders are really liking what Holmstrom has brought to the NHL so far. I'd like to keep him if we can.

    Would the Blackhawks do Salo and a 3rd for Domi (50%) and JMFJ?


    The hawks already had a ton of d prospects that are jammed up in the system.
    8 déc. 2022 à 15 h 56
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    Quoting: Funksoljah
    Buffalo isn't trading Joker and a 1st for Murphy. Joker seems to be the whipping boy for a lot of Sabres fans recently...
    Quoting: Funksoljah
    I don't think the difference in value between Jokiharju and Murphy is a 1st round pick ...
    Quoting: sabres89
    You might get a first for Murphy, but it will be late. The Sabres first absolutely wouldn't be on the table.
    Quoting: dannibalcorpse
    ...Buffalo shouldn't be trading a 1st unless it's a home run of a trade - and I don't know if Joker -> Murphy is an upgrade that meets that criteria...
    Quoting: sabresparaavida
    Sabres decline, if they are acquiring a Dman, it’s to put Bryson in the bench...
    Quoting: Fjordy
    Wait what? Buffalo easy decline, huge overpayment and Joki lately looks good.
    It has been nearly three years since the Sabres traded a pick for player, there is not enough motivation to make this the first one in over 30 months.
    these pairing have played well recently, no reason to suspect it will change.
    Samuelsson - Dahlin
    Power - Jokiharju
    ???? - Lyubushkin
    Maybe Bryson needs a little more time but this year he is being over powered when he is on the ice.
    Let's find a partner for Lyubushkin.
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